2022/2023: FA Cup Quarter Final - Man United v Fulham

[hdcantona 9,000]

First game of Casemiro’s suspension

Old Trafford 

Sunday 19th March, 16:30 k.o

[1Day 145]

No Casemiro,Eriksen,Garnacho,Antony,Martial,wrong time of the season for injuries,but United have Fred!

[PVAD 4,575]

1 hour ago, 1Day said:

No Casemiro,Eriksen,Garnacho,Antony,Martial,wrong time of the season for injuries,but United have Fred!

Don't forget the worst striker, and I use that word very loosely, ever to put on a Manchester United shirt.

How he was started every single game since his loan really makes me concerned about Ten Hags decision making. In those his overall contribution has been awful no matter how one wants to flower it up.

He's complete garbage.

Ten Hag could easily incorporate 2 of Pellstri, Antony and/or Garnacho with Rashford up top. 

[Gary 194]

1 hour ago, 1Day said:

No Casemiro,Eriksen,Garnacho,Antony,Martial,wrong time of the season for injuries,but United have Fred!

Don't forget McT

[1Day 145]

Didn’t know Mct was injured 

[Gary 194]

8 hours ago, 1Day said:

Didn’t know Mct was injured 

Yeah, looks like lady luck has shined upon us

[kevthebad 914]

This will be a difficult game for us. I would have expected an easier win with Casemiro playing, but Sabitzer and Fred in the middle. Unless ETH plays Maquire at centre half and Martinez in midfield. He has done at his previous club. 

Do we really want to get to Wembley and face City? It would need a miracle to beat them. I think the Europa Cup is a better chance for another trophy, now Arsenal are out!

Anyway, just hope Rashford has his shooting boots on because we don't want extra time and penalties, and he's our likely goalscorer. Don't think Wout will be the deciding striker.

The big plus is we get a rest from domestic football after this game so no excuse not to put everything into this match!

 

[PVAD 4,575]

Will chug away and get a 76th minute winner.

Very rare we get beaten at OT....these days.

Edited March 19 by PVAD

[kevthebad 914]

McT playing, (thought he was injured ) Fred sub.

[O 20,624]

VARchester United strikes again.

Got away with murder today.

[Piazza 6,435]

That had to be the god damn dumbest thing I’ve ever seen on a football pitch in my entire life. 

[hdcantona 9,000]

And we're back! - uneventful game huh?

  

12 minutes ago, O said:

VARchester United strikes again.

Got away with murder today.

Not really, they outclassed us for 70 mins but it was a stonewall pen & red and they spectacularly imploded, we ended up with over 3xg (including 0.78 - 1 for a pen) to their ~1, I guess Willian almost reflexively did it, what mitrovic's excuse was though idk because it was a blatant handball and he's now gonna miss 4+ games in the league easily, they could've still won that game even with the 10 men potentially while it was 1-1 

Shocking

[O 20,624]

2 minutes ago, hdcantona said:

And we're back! - uneventful game huh?

  

Not really, they outclassed us for 70 mins but it was a stonewall pen & red and they spectacularly imploded, we ended up with over 3xg (including 0.78 - 1 for a pen) to their ~1, I guess Willian almost reflexively did it, what mitrovic's excuse was though idk because it was a blatant handball and he's now gonna miss 4+ games in the league easily, they could've still won that game even with the 10 men potentially while it was 1-1 

Shocking

Fulham were robbed of a penalty in the 1st half.

Sending off Willian AND awarding penalty is double jeopardy. It should have been just a penalty 

Bruno was allowed to put hands on a linesman at Anfield. No consistency.

United have gotten away with countless shit performances for most of 2023. The only surprise was that they didn't get Sheffield United in the SF draw, and that game hasn't been moved to Old Trafford due to Wembley renovations. 

That was one of Bruno's worst performances of the season... and he managed to score 2 goals. 9andes.

[hdcantona 9,000]

9 minutes ago, O said:

Fulham were robbed of a penalty in the 1st half.

Sending off Willian AND awarding penalty is double jeopardy. It should have been just a penalty 

Bruno was allowed to put hands on a linesman at Anfield. No consistency.

United have gotten away with countless shit performances for most of 2023. The only surprise was that they didn't get Sheffield United in the SF draw, and that game hasn't been moved to Old Trafford due to Wembley renovations. 

That was one of Bruno's worst performances of the season... and he managed to score 2 goals. 9andes.

Disagree - but marco silva had a good cry about that 'penalty' too

the 'double jeopardy' thing only applies when players make a genuine attempt to play the ball in a challenge, a deliberate handball is not such a case so it's a red and a pen every day without failure

Has no bearing on this individual game but I mostly agree, not so much 2023 but since the 2nd Barca game ish (maybe give or take a game) we've been very poor and the games have clearly taken a toll on the side

Bruno = new Post-explosiveness Rooney

[O 20,624]

4 minutes ago, hdcantona said:

Disagree - but marco silva had a good cry about that 'penalty' too

the 'double jeopardy' thing only applies when players make a genuine attempt to play the ball in a challenge, a deliberate handball is not such a case so it's a red and a pen every day without failure

Has no bearing on this individual game but I mostly agree, not so much 2023 but since the 2nd Barca game ish (maybe give or take a game) we've been very poor and the games have clearly taken a toll on the side

Bruno = new Post-explosiveness Rooney

And rightly so. You can't win at OT with the ref against you.

It's an accidental handball. He's double penalised for having an arm. A penalty is fine. A red card is ridiculous.

It's Ole with better players. The team falls apart without a few key players like Lisandro, Varane and Casemiro. De Gea had one of his better games today tbf.

Sigh.

[hdcantona 9,000]

37 minutes ago, O said:

And rightly so. You can't win at OT with the ref against you.

It's an accidental handball. He's double penalised for having an arm. A penalty is fine. A red card is ridiculous.

It's Ole with better players. The team falls apart without a few key players like Lisandro, Varane and Casemiro. De Gea had one of his better games today tbf.

Sigh.

I'd say the last few weeks have been more counter play but it's still quite different to Ole in the sense we still have proper counterpresses in particular, and in possession we have consistent patterns of play, even if we've struggled to execute them well - most notably even in transition it isn't just players off the cuff improvising / Ole hoping the big names make something happen from nowhere - there's a repeatability to our play and in the vast majority of the season (even in this poor run since that Europa playoff 2nd leg) we've largely out xG'd our opponents, whereas Ole got away with xG murder, if you just meant today I'd be more inclined to agree but look at who was missing - this was literally an ole lineup but with Weghorst for Martial and Martinez for Lindelof

[Deez Nutz 372]

We were outplayed for the majority, it was an Ole performance, individual's with no cohesion.

Sancho got away  with one today, thought he was awful and probably would have missed his shot that William saved!

Still, if you can win when playing badly, it's a bonus.

[nirav 1,161]

They did not deserve any penalty in the first half.  We were lucky but so bad that we needed a penalty and 2 red card to score goals. Looked like the old team yesterday with no vision and no energy.

[John C 1]

Getting worried now about Sancho, I don't think he is up for it at United, maybe a swap deal for Bellingham with Captain Blunder Bluss Maguire slung in.

[kevthebad 914]

That was one of the weirdest games I've ever seen!

Fulham totally outclassed us and yet we won 3 - 1. De Gea was at his best to deny a couple of nearly certain goals. Our attack was non existent, our midfield were overwhelmed, and our defence were passing back and forth like we were 6 nil up.

ETH must really be hoping that we are bought by the Qatars, he must be looking at an almost complete overhaul of the team and squad. If he had any hair he would be pulling it out at the total inability of his players to get control of the game. It is a miracle that he has managed to get us where he has so quickly, with such a limited skill-set of players. 

Thanks to Mitrovic and the manager for their flare ups making it easy for us to turn the game on its head, mind you, play like that for so long against Brighton or City and the game will be lost and over by half-time.

With Casemiro out for three more games, really need some players back from injury. Against Newcastle it would be good to have Martial back for at least one game of the season. If not careful that could be a heavy defeat, and really dent our chance of 4 the place finish. 

[hdcantona 9,000]

2 hours ago, John C said:

Getting worried now about Sancho, I don't think he is up for it at United, maybe a swap deal for Bellingham with Captain Blunder Bluss Maguire slung in.

To be fair he won us that game with his run and rounding the gk before the handball and his pass to shaw once they were down to nine 

 

broadly speaking about his time here I’d agree though 

[Albert Quixall 3,867]

2 hours ago, hdcantona said:

To be fair he won us that game with his run and rounding the gk before the handball and his pass to shaw once they were down to nine 

 

broadly speaking about his time here I’d agree though 

He has been underwhelming to say the least. He's shown his talent in fits and starts but that lack of consistency seems to be the hallmark of more than a few United players. One thing is for certain. I wouldn't buy another Dortmund player, even Bellingham.

[1Day 145]

2 hours ago, Albert Quixall said:

He has been underwhelming to say the least. He's shown his talent in fits and starts but that lack of consistency seems to be the hallmark of more than a few United players. One thing is for certain. I wouldn't buy another Dortmund/British player, even Bellingham.

 

[Jay007 3,429]

What a bizarre match, it's fair to say.

It was another poor performance, we're looking quite sluggish atm and we were lucky to not be more than a goal down. But Fulham then imploded and only have themselves to blame for throwing the game away.

I keep thinking we'll need to improve to get through the next round then we somehow get through regardless, but you'd think we really will need to improve at Wembley when we're playing Brighton.

[Gary 194]

On 20/03/2023 at 09:03, Piazza said:

That had to be the god damn dumbest thing I’ve ever seen on a football pitch in my entire life. 

What's that you're referring to? Starting Wout and McT?

On 20/03/2023 at 18:12, John C said:

Getting worried now about Sancho, I don't think he is up for it at United, maybe a swap deal for Bellingham with Captain Blunder Bluss Maguire slung in.

Would be my ideal transfer action but I don't think Dortmund are that fuckin daft

On 20/03/2023 at 23:43, Albert Quixall said:

He has been underwhelming to say the least. He's shown his talent in fits and starts but that lack of consistency seems to be the hallmark of more than a few United players. One thing is for certain. I wouldn't buy another Dortmund player, even Bellingham.

Can't agree with you on that one. Bellingham playing alongside Casemiro would make a tremendous midfield pairing. The lad has so much talent plus the fact he's so young makes him the most sought after player in Euro football at the moment. If we could possibly win the FA and or the Europa it might put Utd in the reckoning. No matter where he goes that club have an outstanding talent for many years to come.