Manchester United Ownership!!

[hdcantona 8,731]

How bad is it that I'd take Qatar over Elon Musk if those were the two only options? The latter is gaining traction this afternoon ffs

[1Day 115]

Utds media hype alone is making them richer

[PVAD 4,461]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64684703

Bid Received 

Glazers Fucking Out!!! 

[aardvarked 11,010]

Would be the ultimate parting fuck you to sell the club to a Qatari sheikh over a Manc and lifelong fan of the club

7 hours ago, hdcantona said:

How bad is it that I'd take Qatar over Elon Musk if those were the two only options? The latter is gaining traction this afternoon ffs

Not a chance in hell this happens 

[Deez Nutz 340]

I miss the Glazer's already..

[O 20,435]

14 hours ago, aardvarked said:

Would be the ultimate parting fuck you to sell the club to a Qatari sheikh over a Manc and lifelong fan of the club

Not a chance in hell this happens 

A Manc who has spent most of his life in London attending Chelsea games, supported Brexit, then moved his company to France, and now lives in Monaco.

 

[Albert Quixall 3,807]

3 hours ago, O said:

A Manc who has spent most of his life in London attending Chelsea games, supported Brexit, then moved his company to France, and now lives in Monaco.

 

I don't want Ratcliffe and his fucking company anywhere near United. It's exchanging one shower of greedy pricks for another. Anyway, I can see the Glazers retaining place at the club, picking up dividends but relinquishing control. They still have hopes of the super league. Ineos won't wipe out the debt, will probably increase it, and despite their promises, will not pump in the money required to do what is necessary. I hate British high capitalists almost as much as I hate their American counterparts.

[John Locke 1,162]

Let's face it. Every potential owner will suck. I'd rather it was Radcliffe because he at least has some idea about business and isn't just some trust fund baby from America. Qatar would be controversial not least because it all seems to be a defacto control by a state of multiple elite clubs.

[Albert Quixall 3,807]

28 minutes ago, John Locke said:

Let's face it. Every potential owner will suck. I'd rather it was Radcliffe because he at least has some idea about business and isn't just some trust fund baby from America. Qatar would be controversial not least because it all seems to be a defacto control by a state of multiple elite clubs.

Qatar ownership - club debt free. We can piss and moan about human rights all we like but it's not going to change the culture of a country one iota. But exposure to, say, a United ladies game in Qatar might even do some good.

Ratbag - Who knows what shenanigans Ineos will do. Will United, a much smaller entity, be subsumed by Ineos and become part of their corporate structure? Will the current shareholders be happy to assume United's debt and the cost of bringing the club up to snuff? Ratbag has a fiduciary duty to his shareholders and must convince them that buying United is good for their wallets, and a company asset that will increase in value. Plus Ineos will likely borrow to buy United from such upstanding entities such as J.P. Morgan or Goldman Sachs.

 

 

[hdcantona 8,731]

Don't want the Qatar bid to be successful but got to laugh at the glazers putting out warnings about their campaigning because saying we need to be helped back to our former glories is insulting the glazer family and their ownership / running of the club

 

Alright you shouldn't be slagging off the person you're trying to buy something from I guess but what else are they gonna say? Laughable 

[MrSwellman 7,732]

Becoming a state project is really the pits. It's infinitely worse than Ratcliffe.  

[TheManc 4,052]

The Glazers are going to stay, aren't they?

Avram will be there tomorrow. 

[Albert Quixall 3,807]

1 hour ago, TheManc said:

The Glazers are going to stay, aren't they?

Avram will be there tomorrow. 

I don't think the Glazers can afford to stay. The cost of bringing the infrastructure up to standard is beyond them, and they won't spend their own money. The club can't carry that much more debt.

[hdcantona 8,731]

3 hours ago, TheManc said:

The Glazers are going to stay, aren't they?

Avram will be there tomorrow. 

Getting or hopes up about them fucking off would be a truly glazer esque shitty thing to do

I've seen tweets saying the bids thus far are miles off their valuation, so I can see the leeches remaining 

[Albert Quixall 3,807]

24 minutes ago, hdcantona said:

Getting or hopes up about them fucking off would be a truly glazer esque shitty thing to do

I've seen tweets saying the bids thus far are miles off their valuation, so I can see the leeches remaining 

Can you see them shelling out for a new stadium, or a new or revamped training facility? Neither can I. A lick of paint and a patch job on the roof isn't enough. Ten Hag will demand significant investment in the team too. 

The Glazers have never spent their own money. The club is up to its eyeballs in their debt so how will all of the necessary things get paid for? They could bring in outside investors whilst retaining control, but from what I've heard, no prospective buyer will consider that. 

I don't want to be a state-owned outfit like City, nor do I want to see us subsumed into Ratbag's corporation but being debt-free and being allowed to spend what we earn how we see fit is an attractive prospect. If it's a choice between the Glazers staying, having Ratbag's company in charge, or Qatar, then the latter gets my vote.

[hdcantona 8,731]

7 minutes ago, Albert Quixall said:

Can you see them shelling out for a new stadium, or a new or revamped training facility? Neither can I. A lick of paint and a patch job on the roof isn't enough. Ten Hag will demand significant investment in the team too. 

The Glazers have never spent their own money. The club is up to its eyeballs in their debt so how will all of the necessary things get paid for? They could bring in outside investors whilst retaining control, but from what I've heard, no prospective buyer will consider that. 

I don't want to be a state-owned outfit like City, nor do I want to see us subsumed into Ratbag's corporation but being debt-free and being allowed to spend what we earn how we see fit is an attractive prospect. If it's a choice between the Glazers staying, having Ratbag's company in charge, or Qatar, then the latter gets my vote.

Ratcliffe the least bad option, I'm honestly not sure if I'd trade the glazers for Qatar, my heart says yes in a second but thinking more I don't like what Qatar stands for etc, it's not an easy choice at least, I think what the glazers have done makes it a lot more palatable but it's not an open and shut case for me despite it seeming so for many on twitter 

 

Ultimately they were never going to take the first offer, so hopefully the glazers are posturing and we get someone relatively decent (nobody with anywhere near enough money to buy us is likely to be a decent human being)

[Albert Quixall 3,807]

4 hours ago, hdcantona said:

Ratcliffe the least bad option, I'm honestly not sure if I'd trade the glazers for Qatar, my heart says yes in a second but thinking more I don't like what Qatar stands for etc, it's not an easy choice at least, I think what the glazers have done makes it a lot more palatable but it's not an open and shut case for me despite it seeming so for many on twitter 

 

Ultimately they were never going to take the first offer, so hopefully the glazers are posturing and we get someone relatively decent (nobody with anywhere near enough money to buy us is likely to be a decent human being)

I'd take the Chicoms over ratbag.

[Gary 168]

On 18/02/2023 at 00:02, Piazza said:

Football is dead, and has been since Shinawatra sold City. On a long enough timeline capitalism removes the soul from everyone and everything. 

Agree entirely comrade!

[Gary 168]

On 18/08/2022 at 21:42, TFIA said:

They do vanity though. 

 

Indeed they do, but only in abundance!

[nirav 1,143]

Long drawn out processes have never ended well for the club.

Glazers continuing with the club will be the worst possible thing.

[Albert Quixall 3,807]

On 16/03/2023 at 03:57, nirav said:

Long drawn out processes have never ended well for the club.

Glazers continuing with the club will be the worst possible thing.

That's what I'm afraid of. Apparently the ugly brothers have expressed an 'emotional attachment' to United which is bollocks. They like the money but if it were true, why did they let the club infrastructure decay to the extent that it has, and why did they put so much power in the hands of Woodward? The Glazers are motivated by pure, old-fashioned greed and no amount of PR can alter that.

I wouldn't trust Ratbag to tell me the right time if I asked him. @Ohas already pointed out his bona fides in another post. That pathetic attempt to appeal to local support was so transparent, but people still fell for it. United hasn't been a local club in my lifetime. We always had fans coming over from Ireland, Scandinavia, and (does Wales count as a foreign country?) the Continent. The Swedes in particular brought over boatloads of fans. Beer in Sweden at that time was about £1 a pint, but in Manchester, it was 20p, so most of them were rat-arsed before the match kicked off. Irish lads came over from both sides of the border.

The Qatari bid will almost certainly involve state money. Owning United - even by a thinly-veiled proxy - is a big prize. Call it sports washing if you will but the yoke that the Glazers put on the club will be lifted. I don't like the idea of being state owned but I think that's what it will take. And it all comes back to a racehorse.

[Gary 168]

9 hours ago, Albert Quixall said:

That's what I'm afraid of. Apparently the ugly brothers have expressed an 'emotional attachment' to United which is bollocks. They like the money but if it were true, why did they let the club infrastructure decay to the extent that it has, and why did they put so much power in the hands of Woodward? The Glazers are motivated by pure, old-fashioned greed and no amount of PR can alter that.

I wouldn't trust Ratbag to tell me the right time if I asked him. @Ohas already pointed out his bona fides in another post. That pathetic attempt to appeal to local support was so transparent, but people still fell for it. United hasn't been a local club in my lifetime. We always had fans coming over from Ireland, Scandinavia, and (does Wales count as a foreign country?) the Continent. The Swedes in particular brought over boatloads of fans. Beer in Sweden at that time was about £1 a pint, but in Manchester, it was 20p, so most of them were rat-arsed before the match kicked off. Irish lads came over from both sides of the border.

The Qatari bid will almost certainly involve state money. Owning United - even by a thinly-veiled proxy - is a big prize. Call it sports washing if you will but the yoke that the Glazers put on the club will be lifted. I don't like the idea of being state owned but I think that's what it will take. And it all comes back to a racehorse.

Don't forget the loads that travel from the East end of Glasgow, and have done since the 8th of January 1972.

You mention ratbag, imo that ' title ' goes to the fuckin geordies. The wealthiest football club on the planet?

[Albert Quixall 3,807]

12 hours ago, Gary said:

Don't forget the loads that travel from the East end of Glasgow, and have done since the 8th of January 1972.

You mention ratbag, imo that ' title ' goes to the fuckin geordies. The wealthiest football club on the planet?

We used to say that a Geordie was a Scotsman with his brains kicked out. Had to look the date up and we lost at home to Wolves that day. What's the significance for Glasgow?

I don't begrudge Newcastle a bit of glory. I remember when the won the old Fairs Cup in 1969. If memory serves, they beat Rangers in the semi and Newcastle was turned into a wasteland. However, state-owned clubs is not a concept I can be happy with, but that's the direction it seems to be going.

[Gary 168]

On 19/03/2023 at 22:41, Albert Quixall said:

We used to say that a Geordie was a Scotsman with his brains kicked out. Had to look the date up and we lost at home to Wolves that day. What's the significance for Glasgow?

I don't begrudge Newcastle a bit of glory. I remember when the won the old Fairs Cup in 1969. If memory serves, they beat Rangers in the semi and Newcastle was turned into a wasteland. However, state-owned clubs is not a concept I can be happy with, but that's the direction it seems to be going.

The day Utd stole wee Macari from Celtic. My boyhood idol. Went to the same school, tho the wee man was a few years before me. When he got the time he'd come to help out at our training and a few times he'd come and watch us play. Aye, wee Lou, an absolute steal, so a lot of Celtic fans became Utd fans also.

Geordies,  can't stand the cunts!

[Albert Quixall 3,807]

11 hours ago, Gary said:

The day Utd stole wee Macari from Celtic. My boyhood idol. Went to the same school, tho the wee man was a few years before me. When he got the time he'd come to help out at our training and a few times he'd come and watch us play. Aye, wee Lou, an absolute steal, so a lot of Celtic fans became Utd fans also.

Geordies,  can't stand the cunts!

Paddy Crerand - if the story is true - hijacked Lou's move to Liverpool. Bill Shankly wanted to sign him but the Doc sent Paddy to intercept him and the rest is history. I remember his debut against West Ham when he scored in a 2-2 draw. Great little player and one of my all-time favourites.

One abiding memory of Newcastle - apart from Keegan's meltdown - comes from the 1995-96 season when, they had to go to Blackburn and win to have any hope of winning the league. They lost and the cameras panned the crowd showing grown men wearing black and white wigs in tears. But on their home soil, they were nasty bastards.

I went up there just after my 16th birthday for the game against us. We heard on the wireless that the IRA had threatened to shoot Best if he played, so that added a bit of spice. Leaving the station, a few of us - and we were just kids mind, ran into a shower of bricks and bottles thrown by men who must have been in their 40s. Real hard cases. Anyway, we won 1-0 and Best scored. Joe Harvey, the Newcastle manager, said after the game that he wished the IRA had shot Best. You can't imagine a manager saying that kind of thing in today's sanitized world, but we thought it was funny.