Erik Ten Hag

[JJtheRed 7,200]

I hope all those questioning why he wanted players he knows / trusts see why, now. 

[Albert Quixall 3,910]

35 minutes ago, O said:

All of those players have been heavily involved in the downfall over the past 18 months.

They're begging for their own replacements. Lol.

 

 

Turkeys voting for Christmas. They will throw ETH under the bus before long, if they haven't started to already.

[PVAD 4,635]

"It's not different to motivate this team because my experience with them is they work really good on the training pitch."

I hope this has got lost in translation somewhere or that his English is still scratchy.

If he does believe this though....then God help us! 

[Maru 15]

Seems to me the truly scary thing is that none of the players appear to want to impress the new boss. Maybe his best tactic at this point - to motivate them - is to start firing guys.

[Eddie 628]

Seen a preview for an interview ETH done with Neville & Carragher, which will air on Monday Night Football.

Looks to get a bit if a grilling I would say. Carragher has it in for Martinez big time, unfairly. Neville questions the recruitment & the Ronaldo situation.

No way Ole would have got questions like that in an interview from Neville. Seems a bit unfair that ETH is getting questioned like that after 2 games in the Premier League.

[Albert Quixall 3,910]

7 hours ago, Maru said:

Seems to me the truly scary thing is that none of the players appear to want to impress the new boss. Maybe his best tactic at this point - to motivate them - is to start firing guys.

Players don't rate the new boss. They wanted Poch. Ten Hag isn't going to last here unless he starts getting rid of the troublemakers.

[Gary 213]

6 hours ago, Albert Quixall said:

Players don't rate the new boss. They wanted Poch. Ten Hag isn't going to last here unless he starts getting rid of the troublemakers.

Were  he to do that we'd have nobody left to start in the scouse game!

[O 20,759]

He made some big calls tonight.

Dropping Shaw, Maguire, Fred and Ronaldo paid off.

Harsh on Fred tbh, considering how bad McTominay has been also.

If he could find a way to replace De Gea, we might actually have a likeable starting XI again.

 

[CB78 395]

Good on Ten Hagg;   decisive decisions to turn things around is what good management is all about - 

loved his swearing in the post match interview as well

[1Day 149]

If it’s not his first 11 yet,then sure ain’t his 2nd 11 either,let’s see where ETH goes from here,maybe he will mix the odd youngster,with mostly  a better team than today,He will just need to rest Varane,Lisandro,Malecia,Rashford,Eriksen,Bruno,and Mctominay,just before European games,after 55 minutes.

[Albert Quixall 3,910]

What's all this 'thanks for the lesson Pep and City' bullshit? Would Fergie have said that? Big Ron? Tommy Doc? Matt Busby? Would they fuck. We've just shipped six goals away at City and he's saying thanks.God help us.

[O 20,759]

I don't think comments like these do United or himself any favours.

The xG was low. 0.91 to their 0.88.

If Sancho was a penalty, then so was Varane on Wilson.

United might have finished the game stronger... but yeah, you're Manchester United. Their starting wide men were Jacob Murphy and Almirón. 

Imagine them countering us with the pace and trickery of ASM and Isak, had they been available. Bruno Guimarães went off injured as well.

Bad result. Average performance. No need to deflect.

 

 

 

[Deez Nutz 379]

Would be interested to know who would rather have Conte in charge, now that ETH has been at the helm for a bit?

[O 20,759]

Just now, Deez Nutz said:

Would be interested to know who would rather have Conte in charge, now that ETH has been at the helm for a bit?

ten Hag is a better manager for the long term.

Conte's had a rough few weeks, but it's not like Spurs are stacked with elite players. They've picked up the likes of Perisis on a free, and loaned in Lenglet as a stopgap instead of signing a LCB like Bastoni/Gvaridol who are their top targets for the position.

Bissouma has underwhelmed so far. Højbjerg and Bentancur are the two best aspects of this Spurs side. They represent Conte's character on the pitch.

If they're going to play with wing backs, they really need to upgrade on their ones. Emerson is woeful and Sessegnon is too inconsistent. Djed Spence was a club signing. Conte doesn't rate him at all.

Kulusevski returning from injury will be key for them. Son has lost his mojo.

They need a new GK, a LCB, RWB and creative CM/AM in order to compete with Arsenal and City.

ten Hag dis inherit some good players and was then allowed to spend huge amounts on Casemiro and Antony. United have the better squad overall.

 

 

[Gary 213]

On 03/11/2022 at 05:11, Deez Nutz said:

Would be interested to know who would rather have Conte in charge, now that ETH has been at the helm for a bit?

Don't forget the shower of shit he was left with 

[O 20,759]

Not a great recent 2 games for ten Shags.

His subs choices on Thursday night didn't work.

Ajax fans say that he doesn't like to rotate too much, and it showed in these past 2 games. Eriksen was woeful vs Sociedad. He's clearly tired and it showed again today. He trusted McTominay at one point, but clearly not anymore. Eriksen played the full game today.

Dalot is having to play a serious amount of minutes as well. Dúbravka might as well be still at Newcastle. He hasn't gotten a look in. Maybe be will finally get a game in The League Cup on Wednesday night.

Captaining Ronaldo was bizarre. This is a guy who has been actively trying to leave the club... and has been involved in multiple discipline breaches. What kind of message does that send to the rest of the squad. I'm surprised, as ten Hag has handled any discipline related problems really well.

The squad depth is lacking. With Varane, Bruno and Antony out, it suddenly looked a lot more bare.

 

 

 

[hdcantona 9,140]

3 minutes ago, O said:

Not a great recent 2 games for ten Shags.

His subs choices on Thursday night didn't work.

Ajax fans say that he doesn't like to rotate too much, and it showed in these past 2 games. Eriksen was woeful vs Sociedad. He's clearly tired and it showed again today. He trusted McTominay at one point, but clearly not anymore. Eriksen played the full game today.

Dalot is having to play a serious amount of minutes as well. Dúbravka might as well be still at Newcastle. He hasn't gotten a look in. Maybe be will finally get a game in The League Cup on Wednesday night.

Captaining Ronaldo was bizarre. This is a guy who has been actively trying to leave the club... and has been involved in multiple discipline breaches. What kind of message does that send to the rest of the squad. I'm surprised, as ten Hag has handled any discipline related problems really well.

The squad depth is lacking. With Varane, Bruno and Antony out, it suddenly looked a lot more bare.

 

 

 

Always difficult to tell if it's a trust thing or trying to send a message to the board (e.g Maguire up top v Sociedad) but yeah having IMO outperformed expectations to some extent (after a horrific first 2 games) he's not done well last two games

[O 20,759]

2 minutes ago, hdcantona said:

Always difficult to tell if it's a trust thing or trying to send a message to the board (e.g Maguire up top v Sociedad) but yeah having IMO outperformed expectations to some extent (after a horrific first 2 games) he's not done well last two games

He's done well in the big games through countering (bar Spurs).

City was obviously a disaster.

It's the games against these midtable teams that he's struggled. Brighton, Brentford, Southampton, West Ham and Villa were bad performances. 2 wins out of 5, when it could easily have been 2 points out of 15. Sociedad made it very difficult over both games as well.

Any team with good organisation and 2-3 players with quality can pick us off on their day. That's what Villa did today. 

 

 

[Alexander 227]

56 minutes ago, O said:

He's done well in the big games through countering (bar Spurs).

City was obviously a disaster.

It's the games against these midtable teams that he's struggled. Brighton, Brentford, Southampton, West Ham and Villa were bad performances. 2 wins out of 5, when it could easily have been 2 points out of 15. Sociedad made it very difficult over both games as well.

Any team with good organisation and 2-3 players with quality can pick us off on their day. That's what Villa did today. 

 

 

I don't think this is a pattern. We played in the same manner against Chelsea too. Ten Hag was incrementally transitioned us from counter attacking football and the difference is discernible. It started against Leicester, but we were still showing signs of being set in our ways by that point.

Most of those fixtures were pre-Casemiro coming in to the side too. Varane is also a factor. Today, Martinez had to do a lot of covering for Lindelof. Fernandes was missing and so were our wingers. Sancho and Antony may not be creative but the press is different with them in the side.

So I think your take is untested so far. What is more accurate, I think, is that our first 11 is looking elite (though it's too little games to say) but the squad is a mix of needs further coaching and needing to move players on.

 

[nirav 1,166]

We are taking too much time in trying to find the perfect ball on the edge of box. Opposition organises and understands till then what is coming. 

Ten Haag needs to rotate and go with youngsters.

[Gary 213]

8 hours ago, Alexander said:

I don't think this is a pattern. We played in the same manner against Chelsea too. Ten Hag was incrementally transitioned us from counter attacking football and the difference is discernible. It started against Leicester, but we were still showing signs of being set in our ways by that point.

Most of those fixtures were pre-Casemiro coming in to the side too. Varane is also a factor. Today, Martinez had to do a lot of covering for Lindelof. Fernandes was missing and so were our wingers. Sancho and Antony may not be creative but the press is different with them in the side.

So I think your take is untested so far. What is more accurate, I think, is that our first 11 is looking elite (though it's too little games to say) but the squad is a mix of needs further coaching and needing to move players on.

 

How many need moving on do you reckon?

On 03/11/2022 at 05:11, Deez Nutz said:

Would be interested to know who would rather have Conte in charge, now that ETH has been at the helm for a bit?

Ffs, think I'd even go for Sneeky stevie gee, at the moment. Full pun intended.

[Gary 213]

Will EtH last longer than Moyes?

[O 20,759]

8 hours ago, Gary said:

Will EtH last longer than Moyes?

We lost 15 games in all competitions last season.

We've lost 5 times this season, so we're a third of the way there.

You could be on the money, Gaz Glitter.

 

[John Locke 1,215]

Eth is a long term appointment. He should be given at least three transfer windows to implement the changes necessary and even then it'd be optimistic to expect us to win the title. Games like yesterday are depressing but overall there have been improvements.

[O 20,759]

11 minutes ago, John Locke said:

Eth is a long term appointment. He should be given at least three transfer windows to implement the changes necessary and even then it'd be optimistic to expect us to win the title. Games like yesterday are depressing but overall there have been improvements.

I'm only jesting.

But he can't hide behind a rebuild forever either. It's an expensive squad. After another few signings, he needs to start competing. 2 seasons to build.

It took Pep a season. It took Klopp 18 months. It's taken Arteta 2.5 seasons.

ten Hag is inheriting better players than what Klopp and Arteta started with.

70+ points in The PL is a must.