Europa League 2022/2023

[O 20,759]

Juve pull off a last gap draw.

Sevilla were comfortable all night.

The corner was taken after the 6 mins added time were up.

Sevilla should still fancy taking them at home.

[TFIA 15,140]

Sevilla-Mourinho final would be great theatre given their records in the competition.

[O 20,759]

VAR is useless.

Fagioli definitely handballed it and Kean avoided a card for a nasty stomp.

Sevilla have played better overall, but Juve are carving out some chances.

That is a very dodgy penalty decision.

Cuadrado got a lot of the man and wasn't in control with the follow through 

[O 20,759]

I haven't seen di María play that poorly in years.

That late goal in Turin has cost Sevilla.

What a goal from Suso!

[TFIA 15,140]

Peak Mourinho.

[hdcantona 9,140]

Sevilla can fuck off with their EL juju

[O 20,759]

6 minutes ago, hdcantona said:

Sevilla can fuck off with their EL juju

Thoroughly deserved. VAR robbed them all night long.

Juve are a shambles in Europe since the 90's.

[hdcantona 9,140]

1-0 Roma at the break 

[Deez Nutz 379]

Over acting, mixed with woeful football, both teams playing like they've been on the piss.

[hdcantona 9,140]

This has been a dreadful watch 

[hdcantona 9,140]

Sevilla europa jam too stron even for mourinhos final record, somehow winning the double toss for both their own end and getting the advantage of going first

sickening but at least we got knocked out by the winners which is a slight consolation 

[O 20,759]

Football heritage. 

Mourinho's gamble didn't pay off this time. 6th in Serie A with no chance of securing CL football.

Sevilla have added another trophy to the cabinet with an an old squad. Some proper characters in that team though.

Rakitić has had an incredible career. Jesús Navas too.

Telles filled in for Acuña quite well.

[John Locke 1,215]

Before the champions league expansion, no team had such a monopoly on the 2nd European competition. It is more of a midweek source of commercial revenue than a serious competition these days. 

[O 20,759]

57 minutes ago, John Locke said:

Before the champions league expansion, no team had such a monopoly on the 2nd European competition. It is more of a midweek source of commercial revenue than a serious competition these days. 

Harsh.

I think it's been really good to watch since around the 15/16 season.

We've had the following finals:

• Liverpool vs Sevilla
• Ajax vs United
• Marseille vs Atlético
• Chelsea vs Arsenal
• Sevilla vs Inter
• Villarreal vs United
• Frankfurt vs Rangers
• Sevilla vs Roma

Awarding the winner a CL place has made it a tournament that teams want to win.

Spanish teams have dominated it this century. They respect it, unlike most Italian clubs this century. Juve were in 3 finals in the 90's.

 

[John Locke 1,215]

22 minutes ago, O said:

Harsh.

I think it's been really good to watch since around the 15/16 season.

We've had the following finals:

• Liverpool vs Sevilla
• Ajax vs United
• Marseille vs Atlético
• Chelsea vs Arsenal
• Sevilla vs Inter
• Villarreal vs United
• Frankfurt vs Rangers
• Sevilla vs Roma

Awarding the winner a CL place has made it a tournament that teams want to win.

Spanish teams have dominated it this century. They respect it, unlike most Italian clubs this century. Juve were in 3 finals in the 90's.

 

I'm sure it delivers its share of exciting games but it has largely fallen by the wayside with the growing emphasis on champions league and the fight for too four places in the big leagues. They have tried to give it credibility by awarding the winner a cl place and adding teams from the group phase of the champions league. As you say some teams take it more seriously and have found a niche in this competition. Sevilla had never won a European competition before 2005, they've only had a couple of 3rd place finishes in la liga going back 30 years and have obviously never offered much threat in champions league. It should be a worry to uefa and be seen as an existential threat that a team of such stature has been able to accomplish so much in this competition.

[O 20,759]

2 minutes ago, John Locke said:

I'm sure it delivers its share of exciting games but it has largely fallen by the wayside with the growing emphasis on champions league and the fight for too four places in the big leagues. They have tried to give it credibility by awarding the winner a cl place and adding teams from the group phase of the champions league. As you say some teams take it more seriously and have found a niche in this competition. Sevilla had never won a European competition before 2005, they've only had a couple of 3rd place finishes in la liga going back 30 years and have obviously never offered much threat in champions league. It should be a worry to uefa and be seen as an existential threat that a team of such stature has been able to accomplish so much in this competition.

Teams emerge over time. Teams disappear over time. That's football.

Deportivo La Coruña were once a top Spanish team. Now they're not.

Sevilla found success in the mid 00's by hiring Monchi as their Sporting Director. He initially joined the club in 2000. He was able to transform their scouting and recruitment process, which lead to them signing some very good players over the past 20+ years. They discover talents. He also developed their youth system. They produce their own players. Jesús Navas is a symbol of the club. An icon. 

Their success should be applauded. They did it without significant funding from questionable sources. The rise of Sevilla and Villarreal has been great to witness. Organic success. Untainted.