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So what are we thinking? I doubt there'll be too much change for Villareal. I hope Carrick tries to make a statement to the squad but it's a big game so I can see him playing it conservatively.

I'd like to see us try something different long term. We're getting so little out of so many players. 

De Gea

Varane Lindelof Shaw

Dalot------------------------------------Telles

VDB McTominay

Bruno

Ronaldo Cavani

I'd experiment with something like this initially. Maguire needs a long spell out of the side and honestly so does Shaw but maybe a shift in position may be suffice for now. Would need better options in midfield and a dominant RWB to stick with this in the long run. 

Kind of bothers me how we haven't tried this sooner with these players. Ronaldo's best game came alongside Cavani who can compensate for his lack of running and Telles is the perfect wing back to play with two players who can attack a cross. Rashford and Greenwood just aren't as suited and are too similar to Ronaldo in terms of what they want to do. Sancho has looked shoehorned into the side in almost every game he plays. He could rotate in as the #10 or second striker in this formation but will need to show more to get regular playing time.

God I wish we got Conte. 

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I'm not against 3-5-2 for the next few games, but we need to start trying to get the best out of talents like Greenwood, Sancho and vdB if we want to see any joy next season.

The squad is too disjointed. No real DM, Ronaldo always has to start, Bruno is not flexible and plays hero ball, our GK is limited, and we refuse to drop underperforming players.

I have no doubt that Shaw, Maguire and AWB will all play under Carrick. 

 

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For Villarreal I wouldn't expect wholesale changes. VDB will be the only "surprise" Carrick would have heard the chants and will be doing anything to suck up to the United faithful 

Expect the same shit at the back which is horrible there is a case of all the back 4 to be dropped immediately. NONE of them get a pass all 4 of those fucks should be dropped.

I'd go for Dalot Bailiy Jones Telles seriously even Jones as shite as he his couldn't be much worse than Lindelof or Maguire.

If you say he is you're talking shite. Lindelof and Maguire should be no where near the starting line up you all know it.

They've been given countless chances after making high profile mistakes week in week out. Look what Maguire did at Watford and Lindelof...Jesus probably one of the soft as shite defenders ever to put on the red jersey...at least Jones would stick his head in!! 🤣🤣

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4 hours ago, O said:

I'm not against 3-5-2 for the next few games, but we need to start trying to get the best out of talents like Greenwood, Sancho and vdB if we want to see any joy next season.

The squad is too disjointed. No real DM, Ronaldo always has to start, Bruno is not flexible and plays hero ball, our GK is limited, and we refuse to drop underperforming players.

I have no doubt that Shaw, Maguire and AWB will all play under Carrick. 

 

If it is Pochettino then the players better get ready to run.

For fucking years we have bottomed out those distance covered metrics. I think we had an initial boost under Ole but it was short lived. 

Rashford, Greenwood, Sancho are all going to have to work extremely hard and up their fitness levels. I actually think Poch will like Fred initially. He'll love Cavani. 

Ronaldo will be an issue early on and I imagine he'll look to move him on in the summer. Would be a pretty big distraction to bench him but I think at the very least he may be rotated. 

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1 hour ago, TFIA said:

If it is Pochettino then the players better get ready to run.

For fucking years we have bottomed out those distance covered metrics. I think we had an initial boost under Ole but it was short lived. 

Rashford, Greenwood, Sancho are all going to have to work extremely hard and up their fitness levels. I actually think Poch will like Fred initially. He'll love Cavani. 

Ronaldo will be an issue early on and I imagine he'll look to move him on in the summer. Would be a pretty big distraction to bench him but I think at the very least he may be rotated. 

Yeah, Rashford and Greenwood have become increasingly lazy in terms of tracking runners. Sancho, tbf to him, has been willing to work the other way. Ole even had to swap Greenwood with Sancho to help stop Danjuma from taking Dalot's soul.

I think Greenwood is arrogant like Ronaldo. Cocky. He has become what Ronaldo was to Ruud back in the day. He just sees an older guy getting in his way, and isn't willing to adapt his game to suit Ronaldo. It was reported a few weeks ago that Ronaldo was frustrated with Greenwood.

Even if Poch sticks with the likes of Fred, McTominay and AWB for now, hopefully the overall structure is better and they all benefit from it. Fred is better than what we seen in a system that regularly asks him to perform miracles defensively. He will hopefully be more like the Brazil Fred if we find the right balance. We still need a specialist DM though. How any manager could spend over £400 million on players over nearly 3 years and somehow not sign a DM, is fucking criminal.

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Nothing to back it up but feeling Carrick could be a touch more pragmatic & we may see bit more structured set up 

After signings this summer think Ole was all caught up in rediscovering the “UTD way” tried to set up to attack at all costs but failed miserably 

Fact Carrick is part of same coaching team could be meaningless?  one of a team 4, wouldn’t be first management team to disagree & Ole making final decision  

We’ll find out pretty quickly 

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I quite like the 3-5-2 formation, but I don't feel we have enough quality in the squad right now to approach this long-term. We'd need a better attacking upgrade at RWB instead of Wan-Bissaka, but maybe he could fall back as the right-sided centre back. Telles would be better suited to LWB too instead of Shaw. But then you look at midfield & attack, I don't feel this formation gets the best out of the players we have at our disposal. The attacking options especially - Ronaldo, Cavani, Rashford, Sancho, Greenwood, only leaves 2 positions to fit these players in. I could understand people wanting to see us try it more and we could be effective, but it does leave out some of our best players too regularly in my opinion. 

I think a 4-3-3 is the way to go long-term. But fear we'd get exposed too often in midfield. We need Varane to come back from injury & not miss another game. We are clearly missing a proper DM to make this work properly right now too - if there's money in January to invest in that position, we should. Hopefully we get to see van de Beek get more game-time too. In this formation he could play with Bruno, with either Fred or McTominay behind. This gives us 3 positions to try make the best use of the attacking talent at our disposal. 

I don't see why anything should change under Carrick to be honest. Performances or results. Maybe playing van de Beek more, the exception. But expect we'll get that little run of form when a manager loses his job. 

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40 minutes ago, TheManc said:

I don't think Carrick will change anything tbh.

I wouldn't have thought so. We might see a temporary improvement as if the shackles have been removed but big changes will only come about when we have a top drawer coach who implants his vision on the club and steadily acquires players who can take the club forward.

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29 minutes ago, John Locke said:

 

I wouldn't have thought so. We might see a temporary improvement as if the shackles have been removed but big changes will only come about when we have a top drawer coach who implants his vision on the club and steadily acquires players who can take the club forward.

“I’ve worked closely with Ole for a long time now and we do have very similar beliefs,” Carrick said. “We did as players and we certainly do as coaches. I’ve got my own personality, but of course it’s very similar [to Solskjaer’s].

“That’s why we worked together for so long and it went so well for a period of time.

Way to read the room Michael. Truly inspiring stuff…

 

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