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And some pricks were saying they’d do the quadruple lol. Courtois was immense but MOTM for me was Carvajal. He is low key one of the bes footballers of his era. Lovely stuff. Boosts morale o

If you thought that was a disastrous choice for him, wait until he signs a 5 year contract here.

Liverpool. They're about to take everything. Leagues. Enlarging the gulf in Europe. And reducing the Treble to a footnote. FFS how could anyone prefer that over some oil spill on the Champions League

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Anguissa and Zielinski were amazing.

Hopefully Liverpool are finished. Their recruitment was never sustainable. If Salah and VVD drop off they’re done.

Anguissa was close to a L'Equipe 10/10.

An absolute monster. He won nearly every individual duel. On top of 7 tackles and 5 interceptions. The goal topped it off.

What a recruitment team Napoli must have. Min-jae, Anguissa and Kvaratskhelia were signed for a combined total of €43 million.

 

 

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Liverpool are on a decline. Some aging key players and others frequently injured. If van dijk isn't on it then the whole system seems to crumble. I do think it will improve though. People like to get carried away after a few bad results like with united but he might have to become more pragmatic to churn out some results in the short term.

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1 hour ago, TheManc said:

Barcelona have a really good team. They'll be a threat for the CL. 

It was ignorance of them as a club that made people think they're fucked.

Losing 2-0, m8.

They have been allowed to to wheel & deal their way around their financial problems.

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1 hour ago, O said:

Losing 2-0, m8.

They have been allowed to to wheel & deal their way around their financial problems.

Should have been 2-0 up at HT. They were always going to have that power/influence, wheel and deal or not. They'll make up for what they've given up easily (and in fact that Barca TV that they gave up barely made them money anyway). They've made those steps to make sure they never dip to the level of United or Milan.

Next Parma tho.

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10 hours ago, TheManc said:

Should have been 2-0 up at HT. They were always going to have that power/influence, wheel and deal or not. They'll make up for what they've given up easily (and in fact that Barca TV that they gave up barely made them money anyway). They've made those steps to make sure they never dip to the level of United or Milan.

Next Parma tho.

Shoulda, woulda, coulda.

La Liga is structured in a way that makes it difficult for Real or Barcelona to fall outside of the top 4. Teams like Villarreal need to overachieve to compete and make it competitive.

In England, United have had to battle with City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs, Leicester and Arsenal for top 4.

In Italy, Milan have had to battle with Juventus, Inter, Napoli, Atalanta and Roma.

It's pretty much Real and Barcelona on tier 1, then Atlético, and then the rest. Other big clubs like Valencia have had their own financial woes.

We won't see the ramifications until 3-4 years now with regards to Barça. If they end up being successful during the next few years, it will have been worth it. But if they aren't winning big trophies again, their brand will suffer eventually. They are still riding on the coattails of the Pep and Enrique eras.

 

 

 

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11 hours ago, O said:

Shoulda, woulda, coulda.

La Liga is structured in a way that makes it difficult for Real or Barcelona to fall outside of the top 4. Teams like Villarreal need to overachieve to compete and make it competitive.

In England, United have had to battle with City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs, Leicester and Arsenal for top 4.

In Italy, Milan have had to battle with Juventus, Inter, Napoli, Atalanta and Roma.

It's pretty much Real and Barcelona on tier 1, then Atlético, and then the rest. Other big clubs like Valencia have had their own financial woes.

We won't see the ramifications until 3-4 years now with regards to Barça. If they end up being successful during the next few years, it will have been worth it. But if they aren't winning big trophies again, their brand will suffer eventually. They are still riding on the coattails of the Pep and Enrique eras.

 

 

 

Their brand was monstrous even before they were dominant. But you should have had this outlook during your 'Parma-gate' phase.

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16 minutes ago, TheManc said:

Their brand was monstrous even before they were dominant. But you should have had this outlook during your 'Parma-gate' phase.

Barcelona were a popular club but nothing compared to what they became post 08/09. It changed the sport.

Just like United coming good when live games on Sky really took off in 1992, Barcelona's success coincided with the rise of social media. Facebook, Twitter and YouTube. It made them global.

They were catching up on Real by 2015, then Real left them in the dust thanks to that historic 3peat under Zidane and last year's Double under Don Carlo.

We will see where Barcelona are after all of this short term thinking in a few years. Will it be sustainable? Time will tell. Alba, Piqué and Busquets are near the end. Alonso and Lewandowski are short term signings. Bellerín was terrible business.

 

 

 

 

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37 minutes ago, O said:

Barcelona were a popular club but nothing compared to what they became post 08/09. It changed the sport.

Just like United coming good when live games on Sky really took off in 1992, Barcelona's success coincided with the rise of social media. Facebook, Twitter and YouTube. It made them global.

They were catching up on Real by 2015, then Real left them in the dust thanks to that historic 3peat under Zidane and last year's Double under Don Carlo.

We will see where Barcelona are after all of this short term thinking in a few years. Will it be sustainable? Time will tell. Alba, Piqué and Busquets are near the end. Alonso and Lewandowski are short term signings. Bellerín was terrible business.

 

 

 

 

Don't underestimate what Ronaldinho did for them. In Barcelona they actually regard him as being the figure who turned the club into the monster, not 08 onwards. But the point is they've always had an incredible pull, far beyond what their trophy cabinet suggested. Unfortunately they're #2 in the world by a distance and that won't change for many reasons. Even when they're at the lowest moment in decades, the best striker in the world left a giant in Bayern to join them. 

They've got a ton of talented young players. Too big to fall unless the entire landscape of Spanish football changes. With Barca and Madrid, they could finish 2nd and the whole world will think they are crumbling into pieces. 

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Barca were a major club even in the 60s, 70s and 80s when they won european competitions (albeit not the main one) and have some big stars especially johan cruyff and Maradona. They became even more renowned from the 90s onwards with their playing philosophy and having some of the greats of the game at their peak..ronaldo, ronaldinho, messi etc. They are a bit like united in that they have built up an aura in the sense that they have been successful while playing the game in an entertaining way. Of course any club can decline if run woefully over a long enough period. 

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7 minutes ago, TFIA said:

Napoli getting everyone in form. Raspadori going now as well. They’ve recruited so well.

Your guy can't even score agains Rangers...

Osimhen's injury gave Raspadori his chance. He's taken it. Simeone keep scoring off the bench as well.

After City, Napoli have been the best team in Europe this season. It won't be easy to win Serie A. But this could be their time.

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1 hour ago, TFIA said:

Spurs look dead right now.

They almost won it at the death. VAR. lol.

Conte has always been a poor European manager. Domestic football is his thing.

Barcelona were well beaten tonight. They blew it in Munich and should have won one of the 2 games vs Inter.

Barcelona, Atlético, Juventus, Ajax, Sevilla, Milan/Salzburg and one of Spurs/Sporting/Frankfurt/Marseille will all be dropping down to The Europa League to join the likes of Arsenal, United, Sociedad, Betis, Freiburg and possibly Roma.

Finishing 1st in your Europa League group means that you skip one of the knockout rounds.

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