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Hate to be that guy, but this annoncement was always going to happen at some point. Football has  been on this gravy train of pure greed in past 20 years or so. Its kind bemusing how suprised many are by this, if you followed football finaces closely very closely you could see this coming miles off. Now the emperior has outted himself of beeing naked and its there for all to see now. 

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Hate to be that guy, but this annoncement was always going to happen at some point. Football has  been on this gravy train of pure greed in past 20 years or so. Its kind bemusing how suprised many are

Not unless he's had his head up his own arse for a few months. The Glazers are some of the prime movers behind this. They don't care about the club or the game because they're never here to watch. The

Such an unmitigated shambles from every corner. Makes you really wonder how this group of people became billionaires. But at least we can put a pin in this idea until it rears its head again in a

14 minutes ago, SimplyGiggs said:

I don't know if this particular attempt will take off, but we are close to a tipping point where this will come to fruition. It's inevitable. There's too much money in broadcast rights which are levelling out the power away from UEFA and FIFA. Big clubs have long not cared for their fans, but very soon they won't even need their fans. It is a sad time for the game.

I think the backlash will be too much.

They need support. They need ratings to justify the TV deals. This could genuinely trigger an unprecedented boycott. Even the fans they're targeting will be shamed for supporting this. I hope it fucking ruins these clubs. 

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5 minutes ago, TFIA said:

I think the backlash will be too much.

They need support. They need ratings to justify the TV deals. This could genuinely trigger an unprecedented boycott. Even the fans they're targeting will be shamed for supporting this. I hope it fucking ruins these clubs. 

Their ratings would be huge in the markets they want to target. I think sanctions and/or a boycott will put paid to this version. But ultimately, the clubs "left behind" stand to lose too much money themselves, and in a more precarious position. Something like this will eventually take place.

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13 hours ago, John Locke said:

 

If we were powerless to stop the glazer takeover then i see little that will be done to prevent this. In some ways the football bodies are to blame for not imposing better regulations to control the takeover over clubs. The Premier league and sky benefitted greatly from.this laissez faire arrangement but over the last decade they have slowly been usurped by these super powerful owners. For fans who recall the old days of division one, the fa cup being prestigious and three european competitions this seems an abomination but for the new breed of fans they probably view this more as a similar progression from the football league to premier league back in the day. 

It'll be interesting to see how the football world reacts. Can this evolution be stopped and st the same time the influence of these parasitical owners reduced.

 

Switch off the TV and stop attending their games .

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UEFA and FIFA throwing out everything they can to kill it.

"Your players will be banned from all European and International competitions" 

"If you do leave your domestic leagues, if you try to return you will be placed in the 5th division"

"Any teams that go ahead with the Super League will be banned from all future CL and Europa League"

 

..ok, so say they do go ahead with it? You're basically killing your own leagues and competitions in the future, EVEN IF the teams decide to return, which they wont with those kinds of threats.

 

Someones gotta double down, and im very interested to see who.

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14 minutes ago, aardvarked said:

Tuchel bottled it, I'd be really surprised if Klopp played along as well. 

Herrera has spoken out as well

I don't think Klopp is nearly as principled as people think. I think a lot of it's an act. Rashford too. 

Of course Ander did, he's a legend. 

I said a long time ago if there was a semblance of sanity left in society we would collectively murder these parasites in the streets. We let them dictate every aspect of the world to suit their own interests and people don't even fucking notice or if they do they don't care.

Revolution now. 

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3 minutes ago, nirav said:

Relegate them all.. no deduction of point nothing... Relegate all the club's involved starting with United.  They think the fans even from east like me are dumb enough to watch season after season the same teams competing. It will just be a friendly game every season. If it goes through then bye bye football.

Just seen the news that bayern refused to take part in super league. 

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"Legacy" fans:

The fans who have helped build the clubs to where they are with passion and undying support over decades. Just as likely to follow the club away to Hull for a midweek game in the League Cup as a home Champions League semi-final against Liverpool. Generally identify with the ethos and traditions of the clubs.
They usually come from the home town/country/region the club comes from and established markets, count tens of millions. Have spoken out against raising ticket prices or dying atmospheres in grounds.


Fans of the future:

Willing to spend money to either visit the club for a matchday or subscribing to tv stations or streaming services to watch games. Usually come from the emerging markets and count hundreds of millions, maybe billions. Don't usually care about the atmosphere. 

I don't even have a problem with the fans themselves from the countries in question. Everyone can support in their own way and by their own means but this deal is cutting out the core fan-base of these clubs.

The bits in italics are what counts for the people in charge. More people to aim for in terms of marketing which of course means more revenue. And less likely to give a fuck or complain if decisions are taken that might go against the way a club generally does things. It's a sad state of affairs but football is run in the same way as every other capitalist organisation. It's all about "progress" as a cover for money-grabbing and greed. 

It has been coming, unfortunately. Even on here I would bet there are more and more people who would also give the midweek Cup game away to Hull a miss. Myself included.
But this whole deal is not good for football in general, it's only good for the pockets of those who run the club. Let's not lie, even the players, though hopefully some have integrity and speak out against it like the legends Bruno and Ander, won't be complaining as their own pockets will get fatter from the increased revenue. 

Wait until they start playing ESL matches in the Far East, Middle East, India, Africa and the US also. That'll be the "next step" in the plan. 

This is just bringing us closer to being like the NFL or NBA. 
"This pre-stoppage time timeout is sponsored by Viagra. Guarantees to arouse even if the football doesn't."

EDIT: Glad that Dortmund and Munich have announced they won't participate.

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Although I am against it, I think Football needs a shake up, UEFA and FIFA are as corrupt as the mafia, so I couldn't give a toss about them, since Bosman, players wages have gone up quicker than their ego's!

1) Players should pay Agents, not clubs.

2) Players wages should have limits and the governing body should have the authority of Customs and Excise to look for dodgy payments...any found and said club gets relegated.

3) 3 match ban for diving to get a player booked or the ref can kick them full pelt in the shins so they know  what fucking contact actually feels like!

4) If a VAR decision takes longer than 30 seconds, the Ref gets electrocuted via a nipple clamp. 

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You see the actual proposals and it just looks worse.  It was bad enough when the speculation was that they were leaving their leagues altogether, but the fact that they want to continue playing in their nations' leagues just highlights their greed.  They want to create a new super league purely for financial gain, then use that to their advantage by coming back to play in their leagues where the gap between the richest and everyone else will be even wider than it is just now? A form of financial doping you could say.

I've always wondered how big the financial bubble in football could get before it popped, but it seems that the clubs are just happy for it to keep growing.  Using financial losses as an excuse for why this needs to happen when you're paying players extortionate wages and buying players for eye-watering sums just proves how out of touch football at the top is, if anyone needs any more evidence.

And that's not to mention owners like the Glazers putting their club into debt in the first place.

 

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2 hours ago, Jay007 said:

You see the actual proposals and it just looks worse.  It was bad enough when the speculation was that they were leaving their leagues altogether, but the fact that they want to continue playing in their nations' leagues just highlights their greed.  They want to create a new super league purely for financial gain, then use that to their advantage by coming back to play in their leagues where the gap between the richest and everyone else will be even wider than it is just now? A form of financial doping you could say. Far as the national leagues goes, if the domestic leagues of those contries were involved Spain,England,Italy then that would be whole another ball game as that would mean that their intentions were to tell UEFA to do one with that Swiss robin tourment while doing their own thing. But base it on merit each domestic league posistion in those three countries, rather than this cash grab the Super League seams to be, even if the style of tourment is something more sensible than the swiss sytem, appart that the founding clubs cannot miss out based on merit.  


I've always wondered how big the financial bubble in football could get before it popped, but it seems that the clubs are just happy for it to keep growing.  Using financial losses as an excuse for why this needs to happen when you're paying players extortionate wages and buying players for eye-watering sums just proves how out of touch football at the top is, if anyone needs any more evidence.

The bubble seems to be made out of a blob i.e it keeps growing and growing without anyting in its path able to  stop it. This was all there for anyone to see if folks cared to look as football has been on bad path for at least 20 years or so for anyone too see if they took a closer look, now is everyone shocked that  the emperior is Naked. 

 

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