Next United manager

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From the archives but this is actually one of the main reasons why this club is in this state and why the next manager needs complete control.

You may recall that horrendous day when we got turned over at Goodison 4-0 effectively surrending the name of this club. 

Solskjaer came out and said some of these players will not be here next year. That was in April 2019.....3 years ago. The only TWO players that have gone are Smalling and Lukaku. NINE of the starting XI are still here, still starting and in some cases been given new contracts. I know this is personal side issue but Matic was an abomination that day legs had given up 3 years back yet still got an extension. This is just an example of how this club operates. FFS Fernandes who has been pitiful for at least 18 months now has just been given a new contract based on what exactly??

We just simply refuse to cull the weak links in this club. How can be it conceivably possible that the likes of Lingard, Jones, Matic & Martial  could still be bench warmers next year. It simply beggars belief that this club is prepared to keep non game time players and other players that would not start for any of our Top 6 rivals.

It sickens me to think next season our first XI line up could still consist of AWB Maguire Lindelof Shaw, McFred  & Rashford because they are still contracted to to this club. How are we supposed to grow as a club and start competing with no significant change in that personnel?

Lots of you have said it we need to clear the squad entirely start from afresh and give the new man whether it's ETH or not SOLE control. If that doesn't happen no matter who takes over will be left with the same mess that hasn't changed much since 2014!

We could even surpass the 26 year wait before winning another Title.

 

[hdcantona 9,000]

Manchester United have reached a verbal agreement with Erik ten Hag to become their next manager, reports @David_Ornstein

[Jay007 3,429]

My excitement was always be tempered by the fact that we have such a poisonous squad of players and a completely clueless board, but I am as excited as I can be at the idea of ten Hag being appointed.

That's not to say it'll work out of course, even ignoring the first sentence, but bringing in someone completely fresh, with fresh ideas but with a solid grounding in terms of his coaching and managerial career is a positive move. Pochettino was seemingly the other candidate, but I have a few niggling doubts about him so I'd rather give ten Hag the go.

One of the doubts about Pochettino is the fact that our squad (and others linked to the club) are said to have preferred him. Hopefully that's true, and it might mean that a lot of them will want to fuck off once ten Hag arrives.

It all depends on the backing he receives to make the team his own of course, which is a different story altogether.

[CB78 384]

Not sure what the thinking is with Steve McLaren as a possible No.2?   Doesn’t fill me with confidence - McLaren’s another Mike Phelan type for me 

Edited April 12, 2022 by CB78
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[Jay007 3,429]

2 minutes ago, CB78 said:

Not sure what the thinking is with Steve McLaren as a possible No.2?   Doesn’t fill me with confidence - he’s McLaren’s another Mike Phelan type for me 

I don't really have any concerns about him tbh. His record as a manager is a bit up and down of course, but he does seem to be highly regarded as a coach and he was Fergie's assistant during a very successful period after all.

Saying that, I'm not actually bothered about appointing someone with a background at the club. Managers should be allowed to bring in whoever they want to work with, and if that's McLaren then that's fine by me.

[CB78 384]

13 minutes ago, Jay007 said:

I don't really have any concerns about him tbh. His record as a manager is a bit up and down of course, but he does seem to be highly regarded as a coach and he was Fergie's assistant during a very successful period after all.

Saying that, I'm not actually bothered about appointing someone with a background at the club. Managers should be allowed to bring in whoever they want to work with, and if that's McLaren then that's fine by me.

highly regarded as a coach in the same way as Sam Allardyce is perhaps?   His highlight was Assistant at UTD, Middlesbrough then England wasn’t it? (circa 20 yr’s ago) 

Isn’t a McLaren like figure what Ralf Rangnick’s supposed to be doing?  

Let’s see- such a cluster f*k it’s hard to have faith/be positive in any UTD decision making at minute 

 

 

[Jay007 3,429]

On 12/04/2022 at 22:08, CB78 said:

highly regarded as a coach in the same way as Sam Allardyce is perhaps?   His highlight was Assistant at UTD, Middlesbrough then England wasn’t it? (circa 20 yr’s ago) 

Isn’t a McLaren like figure what Ralf Rangnick’s supposed to be doing?  

Let’s see- such a cluster f*k it’s hard to have faith/be positive in any UTD decision making at minute 

 

 

Yeah, as I said his record as a manager is mixed (he did very well at Twente as well, which I think is where he knows ETH from) but being a coach and being a manager in your own right isn't the same thing. People with reputations as good coaches don't always meet those as a manager and vice versa, though I think managers who aren't great coaches but succeed are probably a dying breed.

Certainly Fergie thought highly of him and credited him with modernising the way United worked, which admittedly was 20+ years ago, but I have read since then that he's made visits to clubs around Europe to try to learn new things and keep pace with the way football changes.

As I said though, I don't actually mind who ETH brings in. It should be up to the manager to decide who he wants.

[Albert Quixall 3,867]

I still think Poch will be here next season as manager. Have the bookies closed the book yet?

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4 minutes ago, Albert Quixall said:

I still think Poch will be here next season as manager. Have the bookies closed the book yet?

Be quicker just setting your money on fire. 

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My only downside about ETH is that He never took Ajax to the final off UCL,this year.

[Albert Quixall 3,867]

8 minutes ago, JJtheRed said:

Be quicker just setting your money on fire. 

2p pieces are hard to burn.

[JJtheRed 7,200]

43 minutes ago, Albert Quixall said:

2p pieces are hard to burn.

2p? Can’t be that confident… 

[Albert Quixall 3,867]

29 minutes ago, JJtheRed said:

2p? Can’t be that confident… 

Got a jarful. Must be £10 in there.

[Gary 194]

Personally hoping for Merlin!

[1Day 145]

Got kicked out by Benfica and now by PSV,that's his CV update,let's hope He instills youngsters with hunger,otherwise this lot will skin him alive

[utd4life 871]

Ten Hag's record in crucial games is not good. Tuchel on the other hand ... 

[JaimeL 315]

Nine years after Ferguson left, have we finally landed a manager that will play attacking, pressing football? I'm not confident - look how bad we've been for years, with money flung left, right, and centre - but I'm hopeful. There's loads of brainless, low-effort players like Pogba and Martial (could list 80 % of the squad tbh) on monster wages that need to be cleared out, but hopefully Ten Hag and Rangnick will work together and clear out the rubbish while bringing through/buying in quality, hardworking youth.

 

 

[Albert Quixall 3,867]

Has Ten Hag actually agreed to manage United next season or is all this just wishful thinking and paper talk?

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5 minutes ago, Albert Quixall said:

Has Ten Hag actually agreed to manage United next season or is all this just wishful thinking and paper talk?

Fabrizio Romano says it's done and so does Ornstein

[Albert Quixall 3,867]

2 hours ago, hdcantona said:

Fabrizio Romano says it's done and so does Ornstein

It's all still vague. Verbal agreement, agreement in principle, none of these amount to a done deal. Wait and see.

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11 minutes ago, Albert Quixall said:

It's all still vague. Verbal agreement, agreement in principle, none of these amount to a done deal. Wait and see.

if those 2 say it's happening you can take it to the bank

[TFIA 15,109]

It's amazing how Pochettino essentially set fire to his reputation in less than two years with Paris. The job he done at Spurs is long forgotten. Said at the time that it was a catastrophic decision and it's been even worse than I imagined.

I think he was insecure about the lack of trophies on his resume that people (unfairly) held against him - Well he has some trophies now, including a league title, for all the good that it's done him.

Probably even a worse place than United for aspiring managers. At least here every game matters. 

[O 20,624]

40 minutes ago, TFIA said:

It's amazing how Pochettino essentially set fire to his reputation in less than two years with Paris. The job he done at Spurs is long forgotten. Said at the time that it was a catastrophic decision and it's been even worse than I imagined.

I think he was insecure about the lack of trophies on his resume that people (unfairly) held against him - Well he has some trophies now, including a league title, for all the good that it's done him.

Probably even a worse place than United for aspiring managers. At least here every game matters. 

Emery and Tuchel both bounced back well after PSG. But they both did better than Poch has done there. Tuchel was 1 win away from a historic Quadruple. I bet Arsenal wish they gave Emery more time now. He does thrive in Spain though. He's never failed with a Spanish club.

[TFIA 15,109]

5 hours ago, O said:

Emery and Tuchel both bounced back well after PSG. But they both did better than Poch has done there. Tuchel was 1 win away from a historic Quadruple. I bet Arsenal wish they gave Emery more time now. He does thrive in Spain though. He's never failed with a Spanish club.

PSG were always the antithesis of a Pochettino side and that was made even worse once Messi arrived. Not sure what's next for him. He's done a number on his reputation. If he'd spent the last two years on a beach he'd be walking into the United job. 

 

[hdcantona 9,000]

Ralf Rangnick confirms plans of Man United revolution in the summer: “There will be a rebuild here. Six, seven, maybe TEN new players will come”. #MUFC

Christ I hope this is true