O 20,759 Posted December 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2022 43 minutes ago, hdcantona said: Do you think his intelligence and other traits will compensate enough for his lack of physicality? will he have to play more central than wide? I think he will fill out. He's still only 20. hdcantona 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CB78 395 Posted December 3, 2022 Report Share Posted December 3, 2022 1 hour ago, O said: His loan at Sunderland is going very well. 4 goals & 1 assist from his last 6 starts. He had only started 1 game before these 6 on the bounce. He's won the manager over and is quickly becoming a fan favourite. He could be on 10+ goals by May. I've always rated him highly. He has fundamentals that Elanga and Pellistri lack, despite their raw pace. Amad has the IQ. It's a huge step up to The PL though. Love a good comeback & player who turns things round against the odds (& haven’t seen any of what Amad’s doing at Sunderland to be fair) but very sceptical, from what I saw when up here in Scotland no chance he’s making it at UTD. Possibly the worst loan signing ever made by Rangers - bar a glimpse in 1st game he made no impact at all, no signs of form / zilch Elanga’s streets ahead from what I’ve seen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
O 20,759 Posted December 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2022 Just now, CB78 said: Love a good comeback & player who turns things round against the odds (& haven’t seen any of what Amad’s doing at Sunderland to be fair) but very sceptical, from what I saw when up here in Scotland no chance he’s making it at UTD. Possibly the worst loan signing ever made by Rangers - bar a glimpse in 1st game he made no impact at all, no signs of form / zilch Elanga’s streets ahead from what I’ve seen I disagree completely. I watched him at Rangers. He wasn't what you described. They gave him a measley 344 mins of Scottish Premiership experience, and be still managed to score 3 goals from just 4 starts. Rangers loaned in Malik Tilman from Bayern this season. He's a year older than Amad was last season. He's scored 3 goals from 861 mins of Scottish Premiership experience. 10 starts. van Bronckhorst didn't get enough out of his signings/loans. Amad has something about him: Scored on his Atalanta debut at 17 A brace vs Liverpool U23 on his debut That header away at Milan Assist on his PL debut A goal for Ivory Coast from just 64 mins worth of action Scored on his Rangers debut He has needed a run of starts, and now he's finally getting them. hdcantona 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CB78 395 Posted December 3, 2022 Report Share Posted December 3, 2022 39 minutes ago, O said: I disagree completely. I watched him at Rangers. He wasn't what you described. They gave him a measley 344 mins of Scottish Premiership experience, and be still managed to score 3 goals from just 4 starts. Rangers loaned in Malik Tilman from Bayern this season. He's a year older than Amad was last season. He's scored 3 goals from 861 mins of Scottish Premiership experience. 10 starts. van Bronckhorst didn't get enough out of his signings/loans. Amad has something about him: Scored on his Atalanta debut at 17 A brace vs Liverpool U23 on his debut That header away at Milan Assist on his PL debut A goal for Ivory Coast from just 64 mins worth of action Scored on his Rangers debut He has needed a run of starts, and now he's finally getting them. Nah Atlanta/Ivory coast stats totally diff subject? don’t believe you watched him enough? could line up 50 rangers supporters & they’d all say same thing- on the bench for a reason goals one thing, he had chances & didn’t take them, showed no glimpses of real form in slightest (we’re talking UTD quality here & he’s already 20) listen - I sincerely hope I’m wrong; seems a shy type (actually used to see him around our area a bit when he was up) I’d love to see young player like him find some confidence & make it - Just can’t see it from what I’ve seen Gary 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
O 20,759 Posted December 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2022 1 minute ago, CB78 said: Nah Atlanta/Ivory coast stats totally diff subject? don’t believe you watched him enough? could line up 50 rangers supporters & they’d all say same thing- on the bench for a reason goals one thing, he had chances & didn’t take them, showed no glimpses of real form in slightest (we’re talking UTD quality here & he’s already 20) listen - I sincerely hope I’m wrong; seems a shy type (actually used to see him around our area a bit when he was up) I’d love to see young player like him find some confidence & make it - Just can’t see it from what I’ve seen You're talking bollocks. Didn't know we had a Hun among us, though. This is a Catholics only forum. @IPS Temp Admin Ban? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CB78 395 Posted December 3, 2022 Report Share Posted December 3, 2022 Just now, O said: You're talking bollocks. Didn't know we had a Hun among us, though. This is a Catholics only forum. @IPS Temp Admin Ban? Not a hun as it happens - just live in Glasgow (there’s a few Rangers & Celtic supporters up here, - it’s strange I know) you old bigot - resort to toxic every time, it’s a little last decade mate; chill yourself out Gary 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
O 20,759 Posted December 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, CB78 said: Not a hun as it happens - just live in Glasgow (there’s a few Rangers & Celtic supporters up here, - it’s strange I know) you old bigot - resort to toxic every time, it’s a little last decade mate; chill yourself out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CB78 395 Posted December 3, 2022 Report Share Posted December 3, 2022 1 minute ago, O said: Yup - then the videos/GIF’s when your really struggling- yawn- have a good night my friend Quote Link to post Share on other sites
O 20,759 Posted December 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2022 1 minute ago, CB78 said: Yup - then the videos/GIF’s when your really struggling- yawn- have a good night my friend I'm not struggling with anything. You have decided that Amad is a nothing player based off a few Rangers fans who wrote him off after a bad game vs Celtic. A game in which every single Rangers player was terrible. Celtic have battered them in the last few Old Firm games. You also think 20 is old, which is ridiculous. The fact that he has achieved all of the milestones I listed between 17-20 in multiple leagues/countries/environments, only reflects well on him. United have handled his development terribly. The same with Pellistri. Despite not having a settled environment, he's gotten on with it and produced goals/assists at every single level. But you couldn't seem to grasp that. Elanga is getting worse by the game. He's actually been given opportunities at United, so he only has himself to blame. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CB78 395 Posted December 3, 2022 Report Share Posted December 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, O said: I'm not struggling with anything. You have decided that Amad is a nothing player based off a few Rangers fans who wrote him off after a bad game vs Celtic. A game in which every single Rangers player was terrible. Celtic have battered them in the last few Old Firm games. You also think 20 is old, which is ridiculous. The fact that he has achieved all of the milestones I listed between 17-20 in multiple leagues/countries/environments, only reflects well on him. United have handled his development terribly. The same with Pellistri. Despite not having a settled environment, he's gotten on with it and produced goals/assists at every single level. But you couldn't seem to grasp that. Elanga is getting worse by the game. He's actually been given opportunities at United, so he only has himself to blame. Wouldn’t go as far as a nothing player as I said, I’d love to see Amad come good, confidence is a big thing/bit of luck, Ten Hagg might effect, great if he turns it around just saying in my view, from what i saw in Scotland, very uninspiring, made no impact, didn’t see anything like enough to think he’ll make it at UTD decent record before coming to UTD I hope he comes gd but got my doubts Quote Link to post Share on other sites
robbo777 548 Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 TheManc and hdcantona 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheManc 4,063 Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 He's doing so well lately, it seems. Hope we don't recall him whilst he's flying like this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
O 20,759 Posted December 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 27 minutes ago, TheManc said: He's doing so well lately, it seems. Hope we don't recall him whilst he's flying like this. Failed at Rangers. United would never recall him. Nothing player. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gary 213 Posted December 18, 2022 Report Share Posted December 18, 2022 On 04/12/2022 at 04:41, O said: You're talking bollocks. Didn't know we had a Hun among us, though. This is a Catholics only forum. @IPS Temp Admin Ban? Without doubt!!! On 04/12/2022 at 04:50, O said: Aye, no bad. If it wisnae for the fact that I'm a kafflik, I'd probably have found it quite amusing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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PVAD 4,635 Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 Doing really well now after a shaky start. 7 goals and a few assists I think. Has he a future at OT ....Amad at this stage in his development far better than bench warmer Elanga ...and maybe Antony. That's right I went there!! O 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hdcantona 9,140 Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 Sounds like he's having another blinder against Fulham Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gary 213 Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 On 04/12/2022 at 03:18, CB78 said: Love a good comeback & player who turns things round against the odds (& haven’t seen any of what Amad’s doing at Sunderland to be fair) but very sceptical, from what I saw when up here in Scotland no chance he’s making it at UTD. Possibly the worst loan signing ever made by Rangers - bar a glimpse in 1st game he made no impact at all, no signs of form / zilch Elanga’s streets ahead from what I’ve seen Agree on some of it. He was awful in Scotland but think he was rangers best loan signing ever (Glasgow bias obviously) Elanga? Get real man, wouldn't have him sitting on the bench in my reserve team! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CB78 395 Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 15 hours ago, Gary said: Agree on some of it. He was awful in Scotland but think he was rangers best loan signing ever (Glasgow bias obviously) Elanga? Get real man, wouldn't have him sitting on the bench in my reserve team! thought Elanga was decent in spells particular under Ralph (if I remember right) one of the players I thought would really develop under Ten Haag? if Garnacho / Pellistri getting more game time ahead of him TH clearly doesn’t rate him Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gary 213 Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 7 hours ago, CB78 said: thought Elanga was decent in spells particular under Ralph (if I remember right) one of the players I thought would really develop under Ten Haag? if Garnacho / Pellistri getting more game time ahead of him TH clearly doesn’t rate him Just can't see it. Championship side, maybe, but shouldn't be near any MUFC dressing room, never mind team! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PVAD 4,635 Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 Saw more "clippage" of him the other day and I tell you what the confidence in him is amazing! What I Ike is that he comes deep to receive and his trickery at the moment is superior than our Antony. Sorry just my opinion but he seems at ease in that position cuts in like Antony with a decent shot but he can also burn players up with speed which the other lad seems to struggle with. Yeah we're talking Championship but there are some hard bastard defenders plying their trade in that league and he seems to be taking the piss at the moment. Ten Hag should seriously consider introducing him back into the first team next season. He is, as they say, a United style player! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PVAD 4,635 Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 (edited) Please to God I hope they don't let this guy drift off to another club. A fraction of Antony money and has been outstanding for Sunderland. He gets beaten and bruised but is strong. He assists and scores involved in all 4 goals scoring 2 v Hull. He has to be a contender if Ten Hag likes Antony he should be busting a gut to secure this guy's future as a United player as I believe he has more in his game than Antony. Imagine him on one wing and Garnacho on the other. Edited April 15 by PVAD O 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
O 20,759 Posted April 15 Author Report Share Posted April 15 He scored his 12th goal of the season today. He's going to prove a lot of people wrong. Arteta would turn him into a monster like Saka. robbo777 and PVAD 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CB78 395 Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 Ever the optimistic I really hope Amad proves me wrong But, Championship form v Prem league - totally different standard? Aleksandar Mitrović Scored 43 goals in the championship last yr? let’s see. we need options/depth on the right but sadly I just don’t think Amad’s the answer Gary 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
O 20,759 Posted April 15 Author Report Share Posted April 15 1 minute ago, CB78 said: Ever the optimistic I really hope Amad proves me wrong But, Championship form v Prem league - totally different standard? Aleksandar Mitrović Scored 43 goals in the championship last yr? let’s see. we need options/depth on the right but sadly I just don’t think Amad’s the answer Your talent ID is horrendous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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