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Yep, we need a proper fox in the box who (for example) will bust a gut to get on the end of James's crosses at the back post, near post, and get the scrappy goals needed for the more defensive units that we presently struggle to break down.

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Rashford can stay on the left where he looks like he's on the verge of becoming a talisman for us, his stint up front did nothing for him, us and his confidence. 

Greenwood i thought was excellent against Spurs albeit not in the match all too often but he was tidy with the ball, trapped it held it up and waited for the give and go, but it'll be up's and down's for him until he's a starter but i do believe he's a generational talent. 

Martial will be deadly for us when we can play on the break, without doubt he's perfect for games like City he has all the tools in his locker however against teams like Villa he was anaemic, he did nothing with the ball, came deep and didn't move after giving his pass, he doesn't suit the game when the team are playing the low block and not letting us run at them. 

So with that all yes and even before Rashfords form i think its quite obvious we need an out and out striker, a poacher but also a bully. We have no threat what so ever from set plays, our only real danger from them is Maguire who just gets ganged up on and rarely finds the ball when peeling to the back post, having another big bullish body in there to aim at would be lovely, even if it doesn't get to his head he'll unsettle them and make more intelligent movements and runs than Maguire. In games where we can break them down having someone who can get us goals from set players or aiming cross into is vital, at the moment we don't have that we have one style of player and if it doesn't work we seldom win, if Ole is going to make it he needs to add the right players to win him the games against lesser teams defending for their lives (in some cases just defending well against us).  

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I won't make a long post, as @ALF has this covered.

We don't need to sign a striker to cover for Rashford, as he isn't a central striker. He should be playing from the left, which his recent run of form has demonstrated again. We need a striker to cover/rotate with Martial as the main, central striker - someone who can lead the line and let players like Rashford and James play off . Preferably we need someone who's more of a poacher and/or more a physical presence to give us something a bit different to what we have and allow us to mix things up a bit.

It's why I can understand we were said to be looking at Mandzukic in the summer. I wouldn't go for him now because of his age mainly, but a player like him would be ideal if we can identify one.

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Wonder if we'd consider a move for Lacazette.

He's not happy at Arsenal and they can't play both him and Auba in their favourite position, so might have to sell one of them.

Plus, they have Martinelli who looks a serious prospect.

Lacazette is brilliant with his back to goal. Exactly the type of presence we could do with through the middle.

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39 minutes ago, O said:

Wonder if we'd consider a move for Lacazette.

He's not happy at Arsenal and they can't play both him and Auba in their favourite position, so might have to sell one of them.

Plus, they have Martinelli who looks a serious prospect.

Lacazette is brilliant with his back to goal. Exactly the type of presence we could do with through the middle.

He’d be a great signing. A good alternative to Martial too as his attitude is superb. Runs himself into the ground every game.

We’re going to sign Haaland and he’ll flop. Painfully obvious from watching him how much he’s benefitting from the standard. His all round game is still very poor – So similar to Lukaku at Anderlecht.

Striker should not be the immediate priority. Greenwood is far more cut out for this level than Periera, Mata or Garner right now and will only improve. 

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1 hour ago, TFIA said:

He’d be a great signing. A good alternative to Martial too as his attitude is superb. Runs himself into the ground every game.

We’re going to sign Haaland and he’ll flop. Painfully obvious from watching him how much he’s benefitting from the standard. His all round game is still very poor – So similar to Lukaku at Anderlecht.

Striker should not be the immediate priority. Greenwood is far more cut out for this level than Periera, Mata or Garner right now and will only improve. 

Halaand is a very unique player. Could grow into a Džeko one day, but needs time to develop.

His finishing is still very good for a raw player. Has taken the majority of his chances at CL level. Should be on 9 goals instead of 8. One was wrongfully disallowed.

Salzburg are the best run club in Europe. 

Minamino, Szoboszlai, and Hee-chan are other interesting prospects.

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19 minutes ago, O said:

Halaand is a very unique player. Could grow into a Džeko one day, but needs time to develop.

His finishing is still very good for a raw player. Has taken the majority of his chances at CL level. Should be on 9 goals instead of 8. One was wrongfully disallowed.

Salzburg are the best run club in Europe. 

Minamino, Szoboszlai, and Hee-chan are other interesting prospects.

He needs another move before coming here. Not ready for a weekly PL grind. His finishing is obviously good but the chances aren't really coming from anything exceptional on his part. His movement looks pretty laboured and better defenders wont let him get away with loose touches. The sort of player that would just offer nothing in the current setup. We're about the worst club he could join.

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I see a number of issues..

1) striker. We could really do with a world class attacker but to be honest it isnt the priority if you look at other areas like the midfield. As others have commented, haaland may turn out to be a feel goid signing. The fans will get excited but is he really any better than Greenwood might be in a year...unless of course we are planning to get rid of martial in the near future.

2) in midfield we are woefully short on quality. Mctominay and fred can put in a reasonable shift. Pogba is injured half the season and long term not in our plans. There is no depth theur either so we really need a couple of top quality players there or one who can play as attacking midfielder and out wide to gice us flexibility.

3) left back. Seeing that shaw is never looking like becoming a top player for one reason or another and wan bissaka is not a great attacking outlet. We really need a top left back especially one who can support the attacks.

4) coaches. Solskjaer has demonstrated some admirable qualities. The dressing room seems harmonious, he seems to have the right approach to rebuilding the club in terms of long term recruitment and he has a good tactical approach to the big games. However he seems to be lacking ideas when it comes to other games that require you to play on the front foot. Is that his fault or the lack of inspiration coming from the other coaches. Rogers and klopp are two examples of managers who seem to be able to instill a successful brand of attacking football to their players. Regardless of whether the squad they inherit is mediocre they seem to quickly enhance the attacking side of things. The same isnt evident watching solskjaers united. Does he need to change his backroom staff or does he need to make way for another manager. The next few weeks will be decisive in that respect.

 

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7 hours ago, haggler said:

We need t wo proper finishers

We also need a midfielder that can unlock sides that sit back and let us have possession 

And a mid that can break play up, but mctom does look promising in that role

If you ask me he also looks promising in this role.

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Ole Gunnar Solskjaer Travels to Salzburg for Talks With Man Utd Target Erling Haaland

https://www.90min.com/posts/6517350-ole-gunnar-solskjaer-travels-to-salzburg-for-talks-with-man-utd-target-erling-haaland

we do need a striker as Rashford is not a central striker and Mason is very young. and although Haaland is also young but having 2 young goalscorers is better than 1. the problem is Martial though. i don't see him fulfilling his potential anymore. he won't score 25 goals per season. i say we bring Haaland and sell Martial in the summer. buying an experienced striker with a good eye for converting crosses is a must too. someone who can play 2 seasons for us.

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