hdcantona 9,000 Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, JJtheRed said: I’m just waiting for the songs / chants.... first goal next season I want to see him imitating a fight Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeM 10,070 Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 Wait until you see how long the FA will ban him for when the appeal fails. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
O 20,624 Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, MikeM said: Wait until you see how long the FA will ban him for when the appeal fails. What appeal? He has a suspended sentence. He's a free man unless he commits a crime over the next 21 months and 10 days. Called up for Engerland. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JJtheRed 7,200 Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 30 minutes ago, hdcantona said: first goal next season I want to see him imitating a fight We’ve conceded too many like that this season! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JJtheRed 7,200 Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 39 minutes ago, O said: Called up for Engerland. Until 30s ago... Dropped. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hdcantona 9,000 Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, JJtheRed said: Until 30s ago... Dropped. more than a little bit embarrassing for southgate lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JaimeL 315 Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, O said: He just has to not commit another crime for 21 months and 10 days. And that doesn't take into account any of his future attempts at defending. So he should be fine. Man will be in jail come October. On a serious note - I'm guessing he'll be stripped of captaincy, come out with an apology, there'll be a ton of memes and we'll (hopefully) move on from it. It's embarrassing for all concerned Edited August 25, 2020 by JaimeL O and PVAD 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PVAD 4,575 Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 England drop him from the squad. United bottling it should be stripped off the captaincy and put on the transfer list. Fuck him. Albert Quixall 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aardvarked 11,014 Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 I don't understand the connection between Albanians drugging his sister and him punching a copper. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JJtheRed 7,200 Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 1 minute ago, aardvarked said: I don't understand the connection between Albanians drugging his sister and him punching a copper. Too many films. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Albert Quixall 3,867 Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 2 hours ago, O said: What appeal? He has a suspended sentence. He's a free man unless he commits a crime over the next 21 months and 10 days. Called up for Engerland. Hope we're not playing Greece away. O 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SimplyGiggs 5,154 Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, PVAD said: England drop him from the squad. United bottling it should be stripped off the captaincy and put on the transfer list. Fuck him. Hahaha. Transfer listed for what exactly? This has nothing to do with his playing career. Edited August 26, 2020 by SimplyGiggs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TFIA 15,109 Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, SimplyGiggs said: Hahaha. Transfer listed for what exactly? This has nothing to do with his playing career. It’s ridiculous because no one would want him. aardvarked 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PVAD 4,575 Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 45 minutes ago, SimplyGiggs said: Hahaha. Transfer listed for what exactly? This has nothing to do with his playing career. Agreed but it's that bringing the club into disrepute scenario. With being an ambassador for the club especially skipper brings responsibilities one of those is not getting involved in fracas or at least showing restraint. OK so that's the sensible answer. The truth is it was a knee jerk reaction by me but imo is he is bang on average he really is. For a club of our stature we should be looking at better than just average players. He isn't a leader and I've rarely, if at all seen him pump up the team when they're in dire straits. In that respect he is fairly anonymous. Then we have his distribution very questionable, positional sense left wanting numerous times, in the air very very average he's no Vidic and finally composure LOL! Do you rate him? Albert Quixall 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SimplyGiggs 5,154 Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 23 minutes ago, PVAD said: Agreed but it's that bringing the club into disrepute scenario. With being an ambassador for the club especially skipper brings responsibilities one of those is not getting involved in fracas or at least showing restraint. OK so that's the sensible answer. The truth is it was a knee jerk reaction by me but imo is he is bang on average he really is. For a club of our stature we should be looking at better than just average players. He isn't a leader and I've rarely, if at all seen him pump up the team when they're in dire straits. In that respect he is fairly anonymous. Then we have his distribution very questionable, positional sense left wanting numerous times, in the air very very average he's no Vidic and finally composure LOL! Do you rate him? I don't think the club is in any disrepute from this. Where's the harm? I think it would be very shady for us (or any club for that matter) to start taking a moral high ground over off-season player behaviour. Just look at the entire history of professional footballers for that. Then again this is a board that cares more about social media metrics than results so it wouldn't entirely surprise me if he got stripped of the captaincy. Do I rate him? I think he's good, not great, with an unfair target on his back due to a price tag out of his control. He's had a solid season in my eyes. And let's be clear if you think he's poor, god knows what you think of the rest of the CBs at the club because he is comfortably the best. He'll be here for a long time and needs a better partner than anything that's available. PVAD and hdcantona 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PVAD 4,575 Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 50 minutes ago, SimplyGiggs said: I don't think the club is in any disrepute from this. Where's the harm? I think it would be very shady for us (or any club for that matter) to start taking a moral high ground over off-season player behaviour. Just look at the entire history of professional footballers for that. Then again this is a board that cares more about social media metrics than results so it wouldn't entirely surprise me if he got stripped of the captaincy. Do I rate him? I think he's good, not great, with an unfair target on his back due to a price tag out of his control. He's had a solid season in my eyes. And let's be clear if you think he's poor, god knows what you think of the rest of the CBs at the club because he is comfortably the best. He'll be here for a long time and needs a better partner than anything that's available. Well you say that but his country have dropped him. It's about representation Southgate clearly thinks he can't have him in the squad as it woukd mean he condones his behaviour. He is setting an example. As much as you may see this as not a big deal and OK I agree with you to an extent it's not in the Eric Cantona realms, regardless in some capacity during his downtime he still represents the club by virtue of being a United player. I mentioned when he signed he was an improvement on the rest of the CB's at this club. However just because he may be an improvement on Jones, Smalling, Baily, Rojo and Lindelof it's not saying much because the majority of those were/are Championship defenders at best. Anyhow mate in a bizarre twist I think I've finally got you to admit subconsciously Jones is/has been an absolute calamity for this club. I knew you'd see through him in the end Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheManc 4,058 Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 15 hours ago, aardvarked said: I don't understand the connection between Albanians drugging his sister and him punching a copper. They wouldn't take her to the hospital or something, and also i think the police were being heavy handed when trying to stop Maguire and his brothers getting to the Albanians. I read he didn't punch a copper, but he pushed one who fell on the floor, hurt himself and missed the next day of work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SimplyGiggs 5,154 Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 55 minutes ago, PVAD said: Well you say that but his country have dropped him. It's about representation Southgate clearly thinks he can't have him in the squad as it woukd mean he condones his behaviour. He is setting an example. As much as you may see this as not a big deal and OK I agree with you to an extent it's not in the Eric Cantona realms, regardless in some capacity during his downtime he still represents the club by virtue of being a United player. That's just bad timing as the squad announcement came that very day. If the squad was called 2-3 weeks later he'd have been in it. Remember when Sterling was dropped for an altercation with Gomez? There's no long term repercussions to these situations. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ace-7 207 Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 all these wet arse United fans on socialmedia outraged calling for Maguire to be stripped of captaincy and sold Who needs rival fans when you got 'fans' like these. these are the type who could've called radio 5 phone ins in the 90's calling for Cantona's head Quote Link to post Share on other sites
O 20,624 Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 Time for Phil Jones to step up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aardvarked 11,014 Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 2 hours ago, TheManc said: They wouldn't take her to the hospital or something, and also i think the police were being heavy handed when trying to stop Maguire and his brothers getting to the Albanians. I read he didn't punch a copper, but he pushed one who fell on the floor, hurt himself and missed the next day of work. There's some serious bullshit going on somewhere, not sure if it's on Maguire's part or the police. Or both. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheManc 4,058 Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 Just now, aardvarked said: There's some serious bullshit going on somewhere, not sure if it's on Maguire's part or the police. Or both. His group were drunk and their legal system is supposedly the second worst/most corrupt in Europe, so surely both. Didn't a woman get gang raped recently and yet found herself the one being arrested and charged? aardvarked 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
O 20,624 Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, TheManc said: His group were drunk and their legal system is supposedly the second worst/most corrupt in Europe, so surely both. Didn't a woman get gang raped recently and yet found herself the one being arrested and charged? You calling @crazy for man utd-greece and his people rapists? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheManc 4,058 Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, O said: You calling @crazy for man utd-greece and his people rapists? Just him. crazy for man utd-greece, Burns92 and JJtheRed 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JJtheRed 7,200 Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 11 minutes ago, O said: You calling @crazy for man utd-greece and his people rapists? O and crazy for man utd-greece 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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