Ole Sack Watch

[JaimeL 315]

I'm absolutely Ole out now BUT we have to get in a manager that's going bring a coherent system to Old Trafford. We look shite atm but Pogba, VDB, Fernandes, Rashford, Greenwood and Martial are genuinely good attacking players and would look far better under a manager like Klopp, Erik ten Hag etc.

 

If we go after another past-their-best manager like LVG/Jose we'll continue circling the drain and spending money on dross. Maguire for £80m was absolutely criminal too, that's on Ole

[O 20,624]

He's out of his depth.

[O 20,624]

• Newcastle (A) - 17th Oct
• PSG (A) - 20th Oct
• Chelsea (H) - 24th Oct
• RB Leipzig (H) - 28th Oct
• Arsenal (H) - 1st Nov
• Istanbul B (A) - 4th Nov
• Everton (A) - 7th Nov

Newcastle is the only game where we might come away with something, and even that's far from being guaranteed.

The international break might be a blessing right now.

 

[PVAD 4,575]

Somehow I can't see the hairdryer coming out.... 

.....more like a wet weak fart!!

[TheManc 4,058]

He always manages to survive somehow. 

We'll sneak past Newcastle, lose to PSG which won't matter to people and then park the bus/play counter vs Chelsea/Arsenal and come out with 4 points. 

 

[O 20,624]

3 minutes ago, TheManc said:

He always manages to survive somehow. 

We'll sneak past Newcastle, lose to PSG which won't matter to people and then park the bus/play counter vs Chelsea/Arsenal and come out with 4 points. 

 

He'll survive unless he loses the dressing room.

But things are starting to come undone.

Karma quickly got him after his lucky escape vs Brighton.

[Cole 3,277]

We’ve sacked three managers and have we really improved? I don’t think so. We can’t keep sacking managers every 18 months it just doesn’t work. 

I’m not a big fan of Ole but he’s been shafted by Woodward and the Glazers. He knows more than anyone that we badly need a quality centre half and right winger and we don’t have neither.

Having said that signing Maguire was a huge error. He also needs to stand up to Pogba and drop him. 

[Albert Quixall 3,867]

16 minutes ago, O said:

He'll survive unless he loses the dressing room.

But things are starting to come undone.

Karma quickly got him after his lucky escape vs Brighton.

I'm wondering if that hasn't already happened. The old adage that the team's performance is a reflection of the manager is often true. Some of them looked like they'd rather be somewhere else today. The defensive problem was obvious from the moment Spurs equalized but there was no effort to protect the back four or at least track runners and lessen the space.

We have talented players who should not be performing like a Sunday league side; who know how to defend, and who know how to track back, mark an opponent, and play the ball to a teammate.

You've alluded to coaching problems before and I'm on the same page. I have no idea what Phelan is doing in training, or what Ole does to prepare for a game but whatever it is, it isn't getting through to the players. Maybe we'll get a panic buy or two, maybe not but to what end? We could but Mbappe or Neymar and see similar results. Ole needs to go.

[CB78 384]

Not big Ole fan & far from convinced he’s long term man for job - he’s part of the problem but not currently the main part 

We showed good form towards end of last season, no pre-season (which wasn’t his fault) & a board which are not helping him

Waiting to see who we end up with by end of transfer window + few more games before calling for his head 

[John Locke 1,196]

56 minutes ago, O said:

He'll survive unless he loses the dressing room.

Not sure he's the type to lose the dressing room. He is probably liked by the players but for all the wrong reasons ie. His first instinct is not to make enemies even if it harms performances on the field long term. We saw his first few months but now seen from the present, i regard that success as steming from players feeling liberated from the old regime while paradoxically still displaying some of the best aspects of it. Under solskjaer i just see a steady decay culminating in today. The worst I've seen in my lifetime. 

[PVAD 4,575]

...but that’s not about getting players in.

This is about who’s here and getting the best out of the players here and today was the worst you can get from these here.”

Sorry old son talking bollocks....there is so much WORSE to come from this lot...

Winter is coming!

[Mickey Mouse 1,119]

On 25/09/2020 at 10:33, TFIA said:

What an absolute cunt thing to say.

The hypocrisy of him acting like Romero's frustrations shouldn't be his problem when the guy has outplayed his competition for two years without getting a chance. Hypocritical cunt. If Ole performed half as well as Sergio we may actually be going places.

The puppet must go. 

We wont go anywwere with De Gea in goal. I wonder if Ole recalled Henderson to prevent him from embarrashing De Gea on daily bases, with lighting up the EPL while De Gea doesn't pull any punches. Henderson has had 2 clean sheets since arriving and as you sasid Romero has out perforemd him ever since he arrived, but so did Lindegaard. The de gea situations has always been weird considering United as club has never been to fright of binning under performing keepers. De Gea is seriously a stupid hill to die on, considering de gea lacks most things you want see in great GK. poor on the near post (most goals today were copy past of each other), unable to save penos, poor vs 1 and 1 and too glued to the line, poor with crosses and corners, not vocial and cannot organize defence. 

[Deez Nutz 372]

11 hours ago, Mickey Mouse said:

We wont go anywwere with De Gea in goal. I wonder if Ole recalled Henderson to prevent him from embarrashing De Gea on daily bases, with lighting up the EPL while De Gea doesn't pull any punches. Henderson has had 2 clean sheets since arriving and as you sasid Romero has out perforemd him ever since he arrived, but so did Lindegaard. The de gea situations has always been weird considering United as club has never been to fright of binning under performing keepers. De Gea is seriously a stupid hill to die on, considering de gea lacks most things you want see in great GK. poor on the near post (most goals today were copy past of each other), unable to save penos, poor vs 1 and 1 and too glued to the line, poor with crosses and corners, not vocial and cannot organize defence. 

Blaming one player for the situation is Old hat and futile, it was, Jones, Fellaini, now De Gea, there are problems that run much deeper than the players, we need to tear shit up and start afresh. 

[O 20,624]

On 04/10/2020 at 19:14, O said:

• Newcastle (A) - 17th Oct
• PSG (A) - 20th Oct
• Chelsea (H) - 24th Oct
• RB Leipzig (H) - 28th Oct
• Arsenal (H) - 1st Nov
• Istanbul B (A) - 4th Nov
• Everton (A) - 7th Nov

Newcastle is the only game where we might come away with something, and even that's far from being guaranteed.

The international break might be a blessing right now.

 

Big month ahead for Ole.

[TheManc 4,058]

Jeremy Cross is barely a step up from a Metro source.

I''ve been reading some interesting things from Spurs fans about Poch lately though. Seems he really isn't as good at promoting youth as you'd believe. 

[O 20,624]

8 minutes ago, TheManc said:

Jeremy Cross is barely a step up from a Metro source.

I''ve been reading some interesting things from Spurs fans about Poch lately though. Seems he really isn't as good at promoting youth as you'd believe. 

Who said Poch was good at promoting?

Never thought he was. He's good at working with young players. Not necessarily at using The Academy.

 

[TheManc 4,058]

13 minutes ago, O said:

Who said Poch was good at promoting?

Never thought he was. He's good at working with young players. Not necessarily at using The Academy.

 

Maybe I've confused the two. 

Apparently he's awful with the academy, runs the first team into the ground, rarely promoted and doesn't believe in the loan system.

[O 20,624]

Just now, TheManc said:

Maybe I've confused the two. 

Apparently he's awful with the academy, runs the first team into the ground, rarely promoted and doesn't believe in the loan system.

When he took over Spurs, he gave Kane (21) his big break. Ben Davies (21) and Eric Dier (20) were bought. They signed Dele Alli (18) that Winter. Bentaleb (19) looked like a future start in his initial fee months as manager. He used Ryan Mason (23) a lot at first. Eriksen and Lamela were both 22 at the time.

So he was good with U23 players.

Onomah got a lot of games under him. So did Tom Carroll. They weren't good enough long term. Two Academy graduates. So were Kane and Mason. Winks eventually broke through as well. He bought other young players like Son, Sessegnon, Ndombele and Lo Ceslo.

[Mickey Mouse 1,119]

18 hours ago, Deez Nutz said:

Blaming one player for the situation is Old hat and futile, it was, Jones, Fellaini, now De Gea, there are problems that run much deeper than the players, we need to tear shit up and start afresh. 

Have you ever wondered why Liverpool won CL and EPL after getting Rid of Karious and Mignolet? 

[Ace-7 207]

if results dont pick up soon after this international break he's off

[Deez Nutz 372]

3 hours ago, Mickey Mouse said:

Have you ever wondered why Liverpool won CL and EPL after getting Rid of Karious and Mignolet? 

Ridiculous comparison! 

[JJtheRed 7,200]

Tick, tock...

[FlyEaglesFly 40]

Hi all, 

I'm new to the forum so this is my first post.

I'm not a United fan necessarily but I do have an interest in United more so than any other team. My brother is a huge United fan so my interest with them remains and I regularly talk all things United with him. 

Regarding Ole, I do fear the writing is on the wall for him. A poor start to the season and a really poor transfer window (which absolutely was not his fault) may lead to a pre Christmas firing.

I hope I'm wrong because I think he's done a pretty good job overall and has the team moving in the right direction but he's not been given the resources to continue that progress. 

How does he take this team forwards now when really he hasn't been given anyone that improves the United first team? Telles may in time but I'm not sure he goes straight in to the team? Cavani will take a few weeks to get match fit and VDB is a squad player right now.

[kevthebad 914]

Ole was a fantastic player for United. A true super sub. If Yorke and Cole couldn't get the job done, then Ole and Teddy could give opponents a totally different problem.

But, at the end of the day his management in the highly competitive Premier league has been relegation, and with United losing 4 semi finals. 

And this season so far is an Utter shambles. We won one game by virtue of VAR and the whole team lack any organisation or structure and those are fundamentals that a manager has to get right. Granted that the Board haven't a clue on transfer dealings, as they show every window, a d that is of no help, but after the covid resumption, these same players had one of the meanest defences a d best records! So they can be much better. If Ole can't get that out of them, we need someone who can!

[FlyEaglesFly 40]

11 minutes ago, kevthebad said:

But, at the end of the day his management in the highly competitive Premier league has been relegation, and with United losing 4 semi finals. 

I'm not quite sure that's fair. 

Ole got 3rd last year. Now yes that was in a league that overall was a pretty poor standard behind the top 2 but he still achieved top 4 and 3rd overall. He also made was it 3 semi finals? So that's progress. 

Now whether he would be able to take the club on to the next level is another matter. Unfortunately I don't think he's going to find out because he's not going to be given time due to the lack of backing he's received in the transfer market.