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It is really not more complex than it looks - It's just that the will of the accuser has changed. I've no doubt they've co-opted to tell authorities that actually there was more to it, that there was mutual fighting, that cuts/bruises were sustained elsewhere, bdsm etc. Whatever could be said to legally crush the case. The reality is if those images and audio were anything but what they appeared then Greenwood and his legal team would have instantly said as much before he was roundly condemned in the public sphere. They would have gone on the offensive from the jump. They didn't beca4 points
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I knew it wasn't going to go well when her dad came out with those comments after the story broke initially. Yeah, because it's not her pressing charges. It makes it nearly impossible to convict him. Your key witness is too afraid/brainwashed to fight back. Standard domestic abuse behaviour. They always go back to their abuser. Neville is close friends with Giggs, so what do you expect. Not one conviction between Partey, Mendy and Greenwood. Women really do have it hard.4 points
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So Forest might have a chance then?4 points
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What a weird scenario. She gets back with him after he assaults/rapes her. He gets back with her after she outs him to the public as being a scumbag. Ending his career (hopefully). Thats such a strong relationship right there, I'm sure now that the case has been dropped im sure they'll both live happily ever after. At least for a few months more.. Club need to check all legal avenues, and if theres no way we can terminate the contract, we buy him out and let him go. Cant accept him back.3 points
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Marcel Sabitzer
Pap1918 and 2 others reacted to aardvarked for a topic
A surprisingly sensible signing3 points -
Marcel Sabitzer
Gary and 2 others reacted to John Locke for a topic
Looks like an all round midfielder to me. Athletic, physical, can carry the ball forward and knows how to pass. With weghorst, sabitzer and martinez you see a pattern of signing tough characters. Malacia also has good workrate and desire. We had many players with that mentality under fergie so it's a good step in the right direction.3 points -
Let's ALL Mock City- Champions League count =zero
O and 2 others reacted to Albert Quixall for a topic
He's the one with footage of the judge at a gay swinger's party.3 points -
Second goal was pure ten hag ball2 points
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Martinez has been fucking incredible2 points
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From a purely selfish P.O.V this is excellent news for Utd moving forward2 points
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Quite sickening tbh - bit of a rock and hard place situation for the club but they have to do the right thing and let him go IMO Would find it nigh on impossible as a fan to feel good seeing him in the shirt after seeing the pictures and hearing the audio recordings, also I'm speculating but it *screams* abusive relationship Someone on reddit mentioned Ray Rice (NFL player who knocked his gf out in a lift then dragged her limp body away, all caught on cctv) is now 'happily married' to her... and Greenwood is now engaged to the girl involved with this, such a shame as he was such a2 points
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Mason Greenwood
Burns92 and one other reacted to John Locke for a topic
It is hard for the club to not take him back if he has not been prosecuted by the law. If utd get rid of him then it'll seen as the club not respecting the legal outcome. If they keep him then they will be seen as turning a blind eye to someone who many believe has committed abuse against women. Personally i think it should never get to this point. If such charges are made then there has to be a thorough court case because in these circumstances the accused ends up looking like they're guilty especially if it's a high profile figure.2 points -
Sorted in like a day too, only a loan but alarmingly... Competent2 points
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A bit out of the blue this to say the least. I didn't expect to see us doing any business, even with Eriksen's injury, but I think we do need another midfielder now that he's out. Despite his (decent) pedigree I can't really say I've really noticed him much, so no idea what he'll bring. It'll be interesting to see how the move works out.2 points
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Initially back up but wouldn't be shocked to see him starting soon enough tbh I think of him as a better slightly further forward version of Fred in some ways2 points
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Frazier Campbell on MUTV calling the Casemiro red a 'soft throttle' haha1 point
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Martinez is the fucking man! Love that Argentinan fucker It looked like we were gonna fall apart entirely there and potentially even lose the game, so thank fuck we held on. Great fight shown from all the players, but it's concerning how pretty much every United player forgot how to pass or keep the ball in tight areas once Casemiro left the field.1 point
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Sabitzer showing great fight here.1 point
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Bottle job. Casemiro should get a hefty fine.1 point
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Almost nobody in our team is comfortable just knocking the ball round Compare this with how city neutralised arsenal in the cup the other day and that's how far we still have to go and a lot of that will need to be squad turnover1 point
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Mason Greenwood
rezzy reacted to aardvarked for a topic
Not unusual for abuse victims, sadly. I also wouldn't be surprised at all if Greenwood is getting back together with her to give him more chance of salvaging a career.1 point -
It's mental, I know they *needed* a lot of recruitment due to the amount of loans they had in last year, and they needed to upgrade a lot too but what a tough task for Steve Cooper and surely considering anyone still at the club from last year (including like Brennan Johnson for example) - it's just too much? That said they're sort of making it work, doing ok in the league and made the semis of the league cup1 point
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Mate, Albert Tatlock would be an improvement on mcfred and he's been dead for 30 odd years. Time will tell1 point
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Yeah, by the legalities of it, he's not guilty. When you go over the case and see what was said by those closest to the whole scenario it's nearly impossible to think of him as " innocent " of all allegations. In the Court of Morality, the wee bastard is as guilty as hell .Hope Utd buy out his contract and send him packing. He'll probably end up in Saudi where he'll be congratulated for his actions. A team-mate of Cunt R7.1 point
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Wouldn't surprise me if they take this one on the face and keep him on. Ten Hag backed Overmars over the text messages and another Dutch broadcaster for sexual assault so if it his sole decision then I'd say he'll be back next season based on his past thoughts on this type of behaviour.1 point
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ten Hag's best friend is Marc Overmars who is a sex pest. He wanted United to sign Arnautović, only for the club to pull out of it due to backlash online. He continued to play Quincy Promes after stabbing allegations. Greenwood will probably be made captain. Also, he hasn't been proven innocent. They just don't have enough evidence to proceed. They never claimed he was innocent.1 point
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Gennaro the psycho sacked by Valencia. There no hope at that club... him being the 10th boss in 9 years to be dismissed. Even Neville got more games in charge than him! LOL!1 point
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Surely take off Bruno/Casemiro now?!1 point
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Martial had initially made a mess of that but good recovery - the changing of this front 3 has made a huge impact, we've looked a lot better (tbf I don't think forest have had a shot 2nd half but we were meh until the changes)1 point
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omg lol How in gods name aint that a pen!? wtf?????? Not even a VAR check!!1 point
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Sex from Bruno. Aids from Shaw. ANTONY HITS THE TARGET YESSSSSSSSSSSSS AWB and Shaw are back in form I see.1 point
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Marcel Sabitzer
Pap1918 reacted to John Locke for a topic
A good acquisition and a vital one as Eriksens absence leaves us thin in that area.1 point -
Is he a baller? Will be definitely better than mcfred.1 point
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Linked with a late move for Sabitzer now that Eriksen is ruled out until at least April.1 point
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Not Caicedo... but adds good cover and a different midfielder profile to their squad. 18 month deal. So not a bad deal.1 point
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He had a falling out with Pep. His form has been poor this season, after a brilliant campaign last season. Rico Lewis and Aké are keeping him out of the team. Benfica, Valencia, Inter, Juve, City and Bayern by 28.1 point
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If we make the cl we will be fine, if not we will have to sell a lot1 point
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What a performance. Deserved the goal. Liverpool are a disgrace. Some awful tackles. Klopp’s sides can never take losing. A nasty piece of work.1 point
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The FA Cup thread
hdcantona reacted to John Locke for a topic
Wow mitoma. Deserved aftee some horrendous fouling from Liverpool.1 point -
Liverpool are getting away with murder. Clear foul on Mac Allister. And now a horror tackle on Ferguson from that prick Fabinho. It should have been a red card.1 point
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Left on crutches today. Hope it's just precaution.1 point
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Fred's bimonthly reminder that he is in fact Brazilian1 point
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Lmfao Andy Carroll hahahaha1 point
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Premier League 22/23 Thread
Albert Quixall reacted to aardvarked for a topic
From Ancelotti to Lampard to Sean Dyche. Poor bastards.1 point -
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Ten Hag: "Manchester United didn't exactly have the fear factor last season. There was no spirit. I saw no team dynamic in the squad. The mental resilience was very low. I saw that as an outsider - and also noticed it in my first weeks at the club. I looked at the culture of the club. I asked ‘how did Manchester United become great?" "And for me, it was about Sir Alex Ferguson. His teams excelled in togetherness, collectivity, spirit. You just couldn't beat them." "United always had top strikers like Cantona, Cole, Sheringham, Yorke, Van Nistelrooy, Van Pers1 point
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