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  1. 18 points
    lucretius

    Paul Pogba 2017/18

    I know, it's hard to believe.
  2. 14 points
    The 60th Anniversary of Munich Air Disaster is tomorrow, and I just want to get this thread started by leaving this tribute piece I made in MS Paint. R.I.P to all those who died, we will never forget them, WE ARE UNITED.
  3. 12 points
    peterswellman

    The Jose Mourinho Thread

    The easiest change in the world last night was Herrera for Lingard and push Pogba further forward. Everyone in the world could see it but Jose didn’t do it. His changes last night were shambolic in the fact not only did they not improve us, they actually hampered us even further. That was the change that needed to be made, preferably at half-time. Simply not good enough.
  4. 11 points
    Where to begin, so much about the modern game is shite. Lets introduce 5 substitutes and penalty shoot out in the prem if a draw after 90 minutes. No physical contact, no tackling, no pushing, no barging and no punching. Instant 2 minute sin-bin for contact or hand-ball. VMR at every game and small interactive screens in all seats for fans to vote ‘yes’ or ‘no’ over ref’s decisions. Not for opponents fans. Designated shooting areas. Special teams for corners and free kicks. Green cards for shooting opportunity. 10 minute goal celebration time with big screen replays and betting confirmations. More squads, up to 75 players, and at least 5 kits - changed every six months. Time outs and sponsors breaks during games. Adopt a player scheme. More advertising at half time with sponsers exhibitions and promotions by cheerleaders. More player biographies, Twitter pages and club apps. Bigger bungs in transfers. TV merchandising with pay-pal/club credit card reductions. Casino, one-armed bandits and videogames outlets - on site gambling and gaming open only during match time. Starbucks to replace the bovril and pies cafe. Summer 5 star holidays with players and coaches - Tenerife tours/footy schools. Raise ticket prices to remove the last vestiges of the riff-raff. Mandatory to wear dual club scarves and piped chanting of ‘clean’ songs for all games. After Brexit - only British players and fans - blue passport holders only. No subsidies for the handicapped or over 60s. More stewards and spot checks during game time. Ladies football match before the main event - mandatory attendance - sexist behaviour not allowed. More and More TV money and remove all taxes and corruption/fraud investigations. More games - twice a week, all year round, with more cups. Play 75% league games in China, Middle East and USA - only local fans allowed. Reduce all European games to a winter knockout - 4 weeks - with the final on Xmas day. Only for rich clubs.
  5. 9 points
    What even was that replay? What the fuck were those lines? VAR - Brought to you by Microsoft Paint.
  6. 9 points
    This is because the next side playing Newcastle will get them serious as all of the sides played Newcastle (except Mous's bunch of clowns) in the last 4 months so far. One of the most wrong myths on here is that lower sides are raising their games playing United. The truth is completely different.United are not focused &good enough so the opposition sides smell the opportunities to grab points and glory.
  7. 9 points
  8. 9 points
    Sownak27

    FA Premier League 2017/18

    Sanchez signed Liverpool lose to Swansea This is the best birthday I've had in years
  9. 9 points
    peterswellman

    Alexis Sanchez 2017/18

    What! A! SIGNING! Age, money, the reasons as to how this came about......I honestly don’t give a fuck. We’ve just signed Alexis fucking Sanchez.
  10. 8 points
    JJtheRed

    Paul Pogba 2017/18

    I’m getting the impression that people would much rather be “right” than see him do well for us.... Truely sad state of affairs.
  11. 8 points
    United deserve better than Pochettino: Roy Keane. Could we at least try reading posts out loud before posting them, for the sake of my blood pressure if nothing else?
  12. 8 points
    O

    2007/2008 - 10 years on

    I was watching a few of the United Season Review videos over the Christmas period, and 2007/2008 was one of them. It’s almost 10 years since we lifted the famous trophy in Moscow. I can’t actually believe it. I remember it like it was yesterday! We went close in 2007, but an injury ravaged defence was no match for Kaká who basically had his way with us. In my early teens, United were struggling to match the financial power of Abramovich’s Chelsea and we were in major transition; Keane had left the club in controversy, Neville had started to pick up injuries, Scholes had that eye issue, and Giggs wasn’t the rampaging winger he once was. I can remember thinking we were never going to ever catch up with Mourinho’s Chelsea side. Even Arsenal had gone a season undefeated before his arrival. Things looked bleak. But then we won The Carling Cup in 2006, and things suddenly looked more promising. Rooney and Ronaldo were growing in stature and starting to really influence games. Fletcher was no longer in Keane’s shadow. The following season saw some of the best football from any United side that I have ever witnessed. We won our title back after 4 long years, came close to reaching The Champions League final, and lost The FA Cup final to Chelsea. We weren’t a million miles away from completing another treble. And the squad wasn’t exactly stacked with depth at the time. Impressive stuff looking back. Fergie was aggressive in the transfer market during the summer of 2007. We bought Hargreaves from Bayern, landed that Argentinian fella who had just kept West Ham up, and managed to secure the services of Anderson & Nani (two of Europe’s brightest young prospects). Fergie wasn’t about to let the same injuries of 2007 hamper his team’s chances of silverware in 2008. I was buzzing at the time, as I was a Football Manager fiend back then. Any young lad of that era knew about Ando and Nani just from playing the game. I couldn’t wait for the season to start. As we all know, John Terry slipped and the famous cup was lifted by a United captain once again. But looking back, what an unbelievable squad we had at that time. Rio and Vidić at the peak of their powers. Rio became injury prone after that season, which is a shame. A lot of people probably don’t remember, but Piqué started 9 games that season and even managed to score 2 goals in The Champions League group stage. A young Evans also made 2 appearances in Europe that season. Two brilliant understudies. Wes Brown stayed fit for the entire season and was probably the most underrated member of that season’s regular starting XI. We even still had Silverstre on the books, providing cover for Evra who rarely missed a game in his time at the club. Neville was out injured for the entire season, so Danny Simpson acted a cover for Wes. He’s gone on to do well for himself at Leicester, as have Piqué and Evans after leaving the club. The club had an embarrassment of riches in terms of young players. Oh, and the ever versatile John O’Shea was still around, playing wherever he was asked to. Even though Giggs, Neville and Scholes were in their twilight years, their wealth of experience was crucial to a squad full of youngsters who hadn’t won a league title yet. van der Sar in goal only further added to their knowledge of the game. Bizarrely, PIG (Kuszczak) was his understudy ahead of Foster who was at club but didn’t get much of a look in that season. Foster has gone to have a good PL career, only further highlighting depth of talent we had at that time. Before the arrivals of Pogba and Matić, there were a few rough years without enough quality from the middle of the park. But back then, we had Scholes, Carrick, Fletcher, Hargreaves, Anderson, and even Giggs who could come inside and do a job if needed. We’re starting to get back to that sort of level only now. Rooney, Ronaldo & Tevez. Enough said. What an outstanding front three who could interchange and take up multiple positions across the pitch. We also had Nani’s raw enthusiasm (took the piss out of Arsenal) and Park’s work ethic & tactical awareness if required. Not to mention Saha as an alternative to the front three. He chipped in with 5 goals and provided a focal point at times. Even a 17 year old Welbeck managed to make the bench against Barcelona in the semi finals of The Champions League. What. A. Time. To. Be. Alive. Makes me feel old looking back. And the 20th anniversary of The Treble win is next year...
  13. 7 points
    St!mpy

    Paul Pogba 2017/18

    If this was prison, TFIA just dropped the soap and Luc has had his way.
  14. 7 points
    lucretius

    Paul Pogba 2017/18

    Actual footage of @gav81 rummaging through his archive of quotes by, about, or tangentially related to, Keano.
  15. 7 points
    lucretius

    Paul Pogba 2017/18

    League and club record signing on eye watering salary, who's never off social media, has a different haircut every week, his own emoji, #POGBACK, and there's some mystery about why people get pissed off when he goes missing in a game? Mourinho is an idiot for playing him in a double pivot, but if he was as good as some people on here would have you believe, never mind how much the club paid for him and is paying him in wages, he should still be dominating games, and not just against Stoke. He's not going to get into the team of the year, he's not even in the top 5 midfielders in the league, and he's Rooneying about the place. The worst bit is that this was patently obvious to anyone who had actually watched him regularly in Italy or for France. Symptomatic of everything that's wrong with football in general, and this club in particular.
  16. 7 points
    dualtamac

    Paul Pogba 2017/18

    Rebuy Rafael, bring ParkJi-Sung out of retirement and play a proper midfield. #fergiewasright
  17. 7 points
    O

    4-2-3-1 needs to die?

    I think Mourinho needs to accept that in order to get the best out of Pogba, who is a luxury player lacking discipline, he needs to adopt a different approach to the structure of the midfield. A switch to 4-3-3 or a 3-5-2 is a must, in my opinion. We badly need Bailly to return and stay fit. McTominay is probably deserving of more starts if Herrera can't find some form. Martial-----------Lukaku-----------Alexis Pogba---Matić---Herrera Shaw-------Rojo----Jones---Valencia De Gea OR Alexis-----Lukaku Shaw---Pogba---Matić---Herrera---Valencia Rojo-----Jones---Lindelöf De Gea
  18. 7 points
    lucretius

    If you had the power

    I’d change the rule that if a yellow card is given, no further action can be taken. If refs aren’t going to protect players during the game, it will take a few 3 game bans and then we might see the amount of stupid challenges drop when people realise they can’t get away with a yellow. And only captains should be able to speak to the ref, but that’s another matter.
  19. 7 points
    aardvarked

    The Jose Mourinho Thread

    You usually post your RAWK quotes in the Liverpool thread mate
  20. 7 points
    https://thebrokenelbow.com/2017/12/19/the-other-side-of-the-manchester-city-story/ Lest we ever forget these fuckers tried to take the moral high ground and media were lapping it up. United are apparently the evil empire with Mourinho, the ultimate enemy of football, being the most unsavory character to grace the game. It's fucking laughable. Words like scum are thrown around far too often in the game but it's truly applicable to these maniacs.
  21. 7 points
    pailo

    Alexis Sanchez 2017/18

  22. 7 points
    ALF

    Alexis Sanchez 2017/18

  23. 6 points
    lucretius

    Romelu Lukaku 2017/18

    He was very good yesterday, and took both goals really well. The ultimate flat track bully, though. His stats are padded by FA Cup goals against Huddersfield (17th), Yeovil (League Two), and Derby (Championship), and in the CL against Basel and CSKA Moscow. His league record is actually pretty underwhelming: 12 goals (7th, behind Kane, Salah, Aguero, Sterling, Vardy, and Firmino), having played more minutes than anyone above him except Vardy, who has played 14 minutes more and scored one more goal. His minutes per goal is pretty poor (188): about half as good as Kane (97), Salah (93), or Aguero (85). Quite a bit worse than Sterling (128) too. In fact, it's worse than any other centre forward who has scored 7 or more goals, except Lacazette (202). Rooney (164) and Glenn Murray (185) have been more efficient. Even Martial (164) and Lingard (183) have a better rate in our squad, despite not playing up top. Hazard has played 644 fewer minutes, and scored 1 less goal. Morata has played 700 fewer minutes (nearly 8 full games), and scored only 2 less goals. 0 goals against the top 6 sides. In fact, the highest placed team he's scored against is Everton, in 9th. He also has 1 against Bournemouth, in 10th. That means that 83% of his goals have come against sides in the bottom half of the table. He has 2 against Stoke, 1 against Southampton, and 1 against West Brom, so a third of his goals have come against sides currently in the relegation zone. Three teams (Palace, Swansea, and Huddersfield), are only one point ahead of 18th placed Southampton, and he has a goal against each of them, accounting for more than half of his total.
  24. 6 points
    O

    Paul Pogba 2017/18

  25. 6 points
    How can anyone think this is a positive?
  26. 6 points
  27. 6 points
    rezzy

    Do you trust Mourinho?

    I feel like its harder and harder to trust a man that persists with the Smalling-Jones combination over and over.
  28. 6 points
    Jesus Christ.
  29. 6 points
    O

    Timothy Fosu-Mensah Thread

    His loan spell is working out really well. Getting regular games and growing in stature.
  30. 6 points
    aardvarked

    4-2-3-1 needs to die?

    I still do not understand why we can't make a 3 man midfield of Matic, Pogba & Herrera work.
  31. 6 points
    O

    Premier League Transfers 2017/18

    City literally already have a Mahrez in Bernardo Silva. Shower of cunts. A massive fuck you to Foden and Brahim Díaz
  32. 6 points
    ALF

    Alexis Sanchez 2017/18

    Also huge credit to United not only was the announcement video really bloody decent this really adds a whole new layer to the transfer, weirdly. The choice of music, the pace and the editing really add a whole new level of epicness and allow you to dream that he'll make history. Bravo United. And to think Fergie didn't want us to have a social media output, apparently.
  33. 6 points
    TheManc

    2007/2008 - 10 years on

    I'm going to try this....TL;DR incoming... - The bad start with 2 points from 3 games, then a bunch of 1-0s, then the home game vs Wigan where we had Pique and Anderson (who replaced Scholes?) and completely turned it around for us. Smashed em. - Anderson looking absolutely amazing with Hargreaves away to Arsenal (2-2). - Rio Ferdinand dominating Torres at Anfield just before Xmas. - Playing away to Lyon and Ben Arfa + Benzema scared the living snot out of me. Tevez with the late equalizer at their place. - Ronaldo goal vs Roma - Arsenal being top of the league, coming to OT where we rested Ronaldo and completely smashed them. The first time we tried the Anderson - Carrick - Fletcher midfield. 4-0. Nani toying with them 😂 - Pumping Liverpool 3-0. Wes Brown scoring with his back and Mascherano going on a suicide red-card mission 😄 - Arsenal collapsing against Liverpool in the CL 1/4 final, coming to OT and outplayed us for an hour, we brought Anderson on and switched to a more aggressive style and Gallas gave us a pen....Ronaldo had to take it twice but got it in, and later on Hargreaves scoring that surprise free kick. Then Ronaldo toying with Traore at the end by the corner flag before getting fouled. This must have been when the annual Arsenal-season collapse started?! - Barcelona away where we defended for 90 mins, yet still missed a penalty and should have had another 2. Ferdinand was immense - i remember a 1 on 1 with him and Eto'o where he did amazingly well. - Barcelona at home with no Vidic/Rooney. Scholes goal and Brown having the absolute game of his life (perhaps a sign of what could have been had he not been so injury prone?). The We'll never die at the end was amazing. - Beating Wigan - I remember the ball hitting Ferdinand on the shoulder and Andy Gray was trying really hard to make it seem like it was a blatant handball. I swear there was more United fans in that stadium than Wigan fans lol. - CL final....what else can be said. One minor thing that STILL irritates me for some stupid reason.....the amazing counter attack we had in the first half. Rooney tackled Calvalho by our own corner flag, runs with it, a huge diagonal ball to Ronaldo who crossed to Tevez...who missed. Then Carrick decided to hit the rebound at the only place Cech could have saved it 😂. Would have been the best ever CL final team goal. I also remember post game everyone thought Terry called Tevez a "fucking Argie cunt" before spitting through his nose at him just before the red card. There's loads more, but just some random moments from the season that come to mind. Didn't wanna take up too much space!
  34. 5 points
    O

    West Brom - Pardiola era

    So... you're bottom of the league and go to Spain for a bit of warm weather training. Randomly, four of your most senior players decide to rob a taxi and take the piss. FFS. Gareth Barry is the leading PL appearance maker and Jonny Evans was being linked with City and Arsenal a few weeks ago! They're in their 30s. 😂 Jake Livermore might have had a family bereavement in recent months, but he is constantly involved in off the field antics. Tested positive for cocaine, and now this. They are doomed if they don't go on a massive run of wins.
  35. 5 points
    pailo

    Paul Pogba 2017/18

    Or you know..he could actually be ill. Don't let that stop the conspiracy theories though...
  36. 5 points
    gav81

    Do you trust Mourinho?

    This is quite childish but has anyone else noticed the similarity... Would you trust this man? 😄 Ok, on with the serious discussion...
  37. 5 points
    TFIA

    Chris Smalling 2017/18

    Even at RedCafe they’re calling him out.😂
  38. 5 points
    But imagine not rating Mourinho as a manager while rating Roy Keane.
  39. 5 points
    Not trying to compare us with City. The titles already theirs. Maybe I'm wrong to expect better quality from this squad of players, but surely somethings wrong when we have a top manager, a lot of players on incredible wages, and yet only just manage to beat a team that a United team of say 8 or 12 years ago would have annihilated. If every team in the premiership now, is so close in quality, then why are we paying so much for match winner players when they aren't capable of making hardly any differance to our standard as compared to any other club? That's a reason for my pessimism, as good players in the past have been capable of creating, scoring, individual goals and that element seems to have disappeared no matter how much we pay for a supposedly great player!
  40. 5 points
    abo

    PL Matchday 26: Man Utd vs Huddersfield

    Sanchez with his bulldog like approach
  41. 5 points
    Nice touch. Good to see we haven't entirely abandonded our past, and mindblowing to think it's been a decade since Ronaldo was lining up in that tribute kit.
  42. 5 points
    ALF

    Chris Smalling 2017/18

    I've never seen a less commanding footballer. Even when he's trying to be assertive he comes across as frightened. His constant failure to step up and try and intercept or tackle quickly invites so much pressure its unreal. He can be good in the air but much like Peter Crouch he seems to needlessly wrestle his opponent which he's been bloody lucky with getting away with it. Everytime i see his and Jones name on the team sheet together i let out a groan, they're such a terrible partnership, they've had 4 different managers in their time here and seemingly not one has realised this yet but the majority of fans realise this.
  43. 5 points
    St!mpy

    The Jose Mourinho Thread

    Much panic around an odd loss. That first goal killed us, bit of luck going their way. I think we just have to move on. However, some criticism for Mou: his tactics were horrendous and his substitutions even worse. Regardless of what's written on paper in terms of the team-sheet, it doesn't take away from our lethargic defensive system against the bigger sides. Matic dropping in next to Jones and Smalling, full-backs pushing to support but not to overlap and attack, Pogba having heavy defensive duties, playing Martial on the right and telling him to defend deep just in front of Valencia - we'll get away with this kind of thing this season, but I don't see the players being too happy when we do the same next season. Of course the players were poor, but the system will add to this and to the frustration. Even Sanchez isn't the same in this system, much like Mkhi. Luckily we have Huddersfield this weekend to paper over this performance. No doom though, it is what it is, up the fucking Reds.
  44. 5 points
    SimplyGiggs

    Nemanja Matic 2017/18

    When it comes to this fanbase it's almost impossible to shake off a first impression. Matic started the season well, so he becomes borderline untouchable.
  45. 5 points
    Imagine what he could do if he was constraint by budgets and spending limits. The man is a miracle worker.
  46. 5 points
    TFIA

    The Jose Mourinho Thread

    The average is 85 however far you want to go back. As in no matter how far you want to go back to skew the stats in your favor the PL average is 85 points. It's quite obvious that's what I was saying - You're either misinterpreting what I'm saying or being intentionally twisted. You think I'm that stupid that I'd believe the average would remain the same over selected periods of time? Give me a break. You check but you should probably double check the wording of the posts you respond to. I never said they were relevant or more relevant - Just that it's a statistical fact that it's the average. If the average across the whole PL was 87 or 88 I would have made the exact same point. I'm sure you know how progress works. 6th to 2nd is progress. Being "nearer to 2nd" rather than nearer to 5th is progress. We haven't been in a title race for 5 years so just getting close to the average progress. So long as we continue to progress we will get back to where we need to be but it's vital it continues. I'm not celebrating this as an immortal achievement - It's simply a positive step and a remarkable turnaround from 18 months ago when we were struggling to get a shot on target at home to Norwich. Well we're ahead of every side who've spent less than we have so it's hardly a relevant criticism. Where is your source that we have "by far" the highest wage bill? Is it the same ones saying Alexis is on £650,000 a week? There's very few accurate sources for wages and I'd be amazed if we're paying more than City. You think we're playing shit football. I'd say the majority of United fans are actually quite content with the football - Pogba alone is worth the price of admission. Funny how we've pragmatically scraped more goals than Arsenal, Chelsea or Spurs, without Alexis Sanchez. Some United fans also enjoy Mourinho while you despise him. That's fair enough but then don't try and act like your personal feelings don't dictate your opinion of the job he's doing. Even Jamie Carragher can acknowledge he's doing a good job but you're acting like it's my bias that's influencing my opinion. I've criticised Mourinho for a lot of the negative things. You have never praised him for the positive. Can't really judge when we're still in two cup competitions and yet to see our best attacking player in action. The club seem to think he's doing the job though - Hence the offer of a new deal. His job isn't finished yet but I could hand on heart say I'm happy about the current job he is doing.
  47. 5 points
    adhityaprianda

    Alexis Sanchez 2017/18

    😂😂😂😂
  48. 5 points
    rezzy

    Alexis Sanchez 2017/18

    I cant wait till we're 2 weeks into his time here and all the TMU hipsters begin their hatred of him. 🙃
  49. 5 points
    hdcantona

    Alexis Sanchez 2017/18

    There was a small group of us who really wanted him when Udinese sold him to Barca and I couldn't remember if anyone still around was one of them - god I loved him back then, I actually forgot how much I did
  50. 5 points
    TFIA

    Alexis Sanchez 2017/18

    Don't believe a fucking thing. Ornstein just totally contradicted his colleague at the BBC Simon Stone who on Thursday included a £30m transfer fee in the supposedly "eye watering" total we were paying. Anyone who hasn't noticed the agenda against United throughout this whole saga hasn't been paying attention. Sanchez being called a "treacherous turncoat", "the biggest mercenary in football" etc. from high profile journalists and pundits - It's fucking crazy. I know that Gulf State money extends far but this is taking the piss. This is a phenomenal piece of business from the club. Just upgraded on an irrelevant squad member with a world class player.