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  2. Buy Bellingham now, or United face paying treble later Jude Bellingham’s potential price tag was a big talking point before this current economic crisis. The Mail were among several outlets to link United with paying a £30 million fee for the Birmingham City midfielder. Bellingham is just 16, and on one hand the fee appears an extravagant amount of money, especially in this climate. Yet if Bellingham really is the real deal, and the best British teenager since Wayne Rooney, as The Sun describe him, the fee could end up looking like a smart investment. Firstly, it is the same fee United paid for Rooney back in 2004. He went on to break Sir Bobby Charlton’s seemingly unbeatable Red Devils’ goalscoring record, as well as winning five league titles, the Champions League, the FA Cup, and the League Cup three times. Then you just have to look at the way transfer fees quickly escalate to realise Bellingham’s value will soar within just one season. The delay to the European Championships to summer 2021 gives Bellingham a chance to gatecrash the Three Lions squad. That would not have been possible this summer, but if he has a season under his belt at Old Trafford and makes a quick transition to Premier League football, then it will only be a matter of time before the teenager represents his country. If Bellingham were to star at Euro 2021 for England after a season at United then his value will more than double, it could treble. It would be a big jump, but you only have to look at Dele Alli’s 2015/16 to see what is possible. He went from playing at MK Dons a year earlier, to lining up for England at Euro 2016 after hitting the ground running for Spurs. No amount of money would have convinced Tottenham to sell him that summer. Even if Bellingham signs for United and does not get senior international recognition within his first 12 months, his value as a player will still be far higher than the £30 million we appear ready to pay. Better to be ours Jadon Sancho’s success in Germany demonstrates Bellingham’s rising value need not be confined to signing for United, sadly for us. Sancho has gone onto become an England regular and establish himself as European football’s most wanted player, and it will likely take United a club record fee to sign him. Bellingham could have the same success, and leave United having to wait two or three years before having a second attempt at signing him. That is why it is so important United close the deal for the youngster now. It is so much better to buy him for £30 million this summer and see his value soar while contracted to us, than miss out, and have to try and buy him for £90 million from Dortmund in 2022. Source:
  3. Joe Hugill fills a need in Manchester United's academy Manchester United are close to wrapping up the signing of promising Sunderland youth talent Joe Hugill. The Guardian reported last month an agreement is in place for the 16-year-old to sign to join, with United beating competition from Premier League rivals for his signature. It is important to remember that Hugill is a signing for the academy, and not the first team. And to this end, Hugill is exactly what Manchester United’s academy needs. Conor Bradley of Liverpool and Joe Hugill of Sunderland in action (Photo by Nick Taylor/Liverpool FC/Liverpool FC via Getty Images) Striker competition needed Ever since Mason Greenwood followed Marcus Rashford’s path into the Manchester United first team, his absence at academy level has been felt. That is natural, considering he scored more than 50 goals in two seasons for the under-18s, u19s and u23s before being called up. United have been left without an obvious strike solution at under-23 level, to the point where attacking midfielders Angel Gomes and Aidan Barlow were filling the void in early 2020. D’Mani Mellor has a shot, and made his debut in the Europa League against Astana, before injuries disrupted his season. A loan may be in his best interests. United are clearly thinking long-term, and adding Hugill to the mix is the right move. Currently United have a few options, but nobody has yet nailed down the role of the main man to follow Greenwood. Dillon Hoogewerf has made a good start since his summer arrival from Ajax, starring in the under-18s FA Youth Cup run, before suffering a hamstring injury in the win over Leeds. Deji Sotona has filled in, developing his game and showing he can play as a striker and not just a winger. He has pace to burn and is a strong option, scoring the winner in the Youth Cup quarter-final against Wigan. Every Premier League Club's January Transfer Business Rated Behind Hoogewerf and Sotona, United have last summer’s addition from Real Zaragoza, Mateo Mejia is an option, but this year he has not had an immediate impact, with his start delayed by red tape, before he suffered an injury on his first start. Attacking midfielder Max Haygarth has also filled in up front at under-18 level when he has been fit (he missed several months with injury this season). So it is evident to see United have options, but none who are yet wholly convincing. The door is open for each of them to step up. At the same time, this is why United are looking to add Joe Hugill into the team to see what he is capable of. Hugill plays for a wretched Sunderland side who sit bottom of the under-18 league, with 0 points from 16 games. It is tough to get a measure of his ability from this, while also notable that at just 16, he is managing to stand out for a struggling team, netting in a recent defeat to Middlesbrough. He has even played for the under-23s, scoring twice in a defeat to top of the table West Ham. At just 16-years-old, Hugill’s impact is notable, and if surrounded by better teammates, he could really thrive. United consider he is worth taking a gamble on, and there could be a real opportunity for him to stand out at Old Trafford. Competition is healthy, and his arrival will spur on the talented forwards already in United’s set up. Source:
  4. Its fun too see old post after some time too see who can make it or not He didn't make it He is in our U-18. looks like Top Prospect. can find some video clip from him like this He is not that shining I think? Well, After open this page again I just realize, we have so many talented young player that got spotlight from young age (hype?)
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  6. If Aubameyang is available for ~20M then this is a mistake. I don't believe he is though.
  7. Analysis for his style of play so far..
  8. If the Daily Fail is to be believed, I wasn’t far wrong. Apparently we’re picking up half his wages (£130k ish) and it’s going to cost a total of £10.5m to keep him til January, including another £6m loan fee. This isn’t a good deal.
  9. That's a lot of fucking money, lol. But then again Lingard is on something like 130k pw, so I wound't really be shocked if Ighalo gets what you say he probably gets.
  10. Just numbers I’ve heard banded about over the last week or so... He definitely took a pay cut but still on a decent chunk... £150k might be stretching it but I’d be massively surprised if it was anything less than £100k That said, depending who you ask; Sanchez is on between £300k and £450k - so pinch of salt required
  11. Whoa, holup... 150k per week? Is that really the wage he's on? I read somewhere that he's on 80k pw or something and took a pay cut to join United? Got any sources for this? i'd be against it too if that's what he's on.
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  13. The argument those guys have made (correct me if i'm wrong) isn't that we can spend more than we could, but that other clubs may be cash strapped so will accept less. We don't know if that's going to be the case with our targets though (especially Sancho). We can benefit over most clubs, but there's new stories now that Real Madrid won't be able to spend much, nor will Liverpool. They should be in similar financials to us and we're basically in an ever-learning situation. The idea that we can bully everyone now is great but as we are learning more, it seems things may not that be as rosy as that. Last Summer we bought AWB/Maguire outright (or at least Maguire, idk about AWB) but that was seen as unique at the time and we're now in a more difficult situation with the uncertainty. We also took in the Lukaku fee last Summer to help cover those fees which we won't benefit from this season unless Pogba goes. Bruno just cost us 50 odd mill as well. Thinking we can go and splash out 200M with no substantial outgoings just feels like la la land to me. A Summer of Sancho + Ighalo + Bellingham for ~120M seems to be more viable and will likely be the biggest investment that any top team makes this Summer. That could be us taking advantage when you see that Barca are fucked, Juve are fucked, PSG can apparently only buy Icardi, Madrid supposedly can't buy a galactico, Liverpool may only be looking at Werner. We could do better than everyone because they themselves need to reign it in, but that doesn't mean we can blow out more money than we have previously. I hope I'm wrong and we go and buy 5 top first teamers but it just doesn't seem realistic.
  14. That was Ed’s line because he’s terrified of another inevitable mauling in the transfer market. A lot of decent commentators seem to believe this pandemic could actually enhance our financial power over the rest. Like I said, the boys on The Athletic United podcast break it down well. We could always do it? We literally played the Maguire and AWB transfers up front last year. We’ve spent an absolute ton in the last few years, no reason we don’t have that money now. Particularly if we qualify for the CL....even at City’s loss.
  15. I'm no finance expert, but haven't those who are and read our recent finance reports basically said that we're in ok shape to deal with this virus but that we actually can't go and blow 200M net? Expecting us to go and blow that much today when we couldn't do that in a healthier financial climate is pushing it.
  16. Only United could turn a short term panic buy into a longer deal where we still overpay the player and get nothing in return outside goals against Brugge, LASK and Derby. When this club eventually breaks me, and I do in fact turn to suicide, this is one of the things I’ll list on my goodbye note.
  17. There’s absolutely no reason we cannot buy Sancho and a real quality forward to tide us over anyway. Ighalo would rank as one of the worst strikers, in terms of overall quality ceiling, to play for this club in my lifetime . Likeable? How does that even matter? I’d rather an absolute arsehole who sticks 20 goals a season (Rudd, Rooney et al) and can actually do a fine long-term job for us. He might be a decent guy, sure, but he’s bang average and anyone who suggests otherwise is absolutely deluded. Also fail to see how Ighalo is going to aid Greenwood’s development. Worse of all, he’s not even an average utility player who can fill in in a variety of roles. He’s an out and out centre forward whose still making six-figures despite being a 30-year-old coming from China. I could name probably 100 other strikers who would suit us better at present, but let’s just keep settling and keep falling off the pace. Watch as City don’t sign just one individual. Chelsea? Won’t happen. Liverpool? Werner and some more squad players more than likely. I would ask why we have to settle for just one player all of a sudden anyway? It’s actually beyond me! Player values will drop significantly this summer due to the pandemic. We are unbelievably well set up in financially and we had already set aside 30 million in case the league didn’t play out which now should go back into the coffers according to Laurie Whitwell and Andy Mitten on The Athletic United podcast. Our budget will be one of the least affected currently given our revenue streams in the majority comes commercially and not through TV money or gate receipts. There is absolutely no reason we won’t be able to spend 200m this summer. I’ve tackled that in the above par. If we only get a wide player this season we’re a million miles away from what we need to be aiming for. It doesn’t even have to be Timo Werner. There are countless players who will offer us more if we splash some cash - which we have no matter what Ed and co get the rest of you ‘Ighalo is fantastic‘ people believe. Our standards have fallen something unbelievable. This guy is actually trash. There are any amount of better quality players out there that won’t break the bank. Very worrying attitude from some many of our supporters and is it any wonder most outsiders are laughing their holes off at this deal. Joke.
  18. It's a good deal if it allows us to spend our budget on other areas. We're not going to spend 200M net this Summer. Would you rather we buy a top class striker, or a top class wide player and Ighalo? Wide right is definitely the biggest hole in our team. In an ideal world we could go out and blow 80M on Sancho and 50M on Werner, but that isn't really realistic given that we're also in for a 3rd (Grealish/Bellingham etc). While we're building it's better to look at the bigger picture rather than signings in isolation. If all we end up with is Ighalo, then yeah I am with you.
  19. tbh if it means we target Sancho/Grealish in the summer, give Greenwood more time to develop rather than taking an option B or C etc at Striker over whoever we would want as option A, I think it's shrewd to extend it without buying him permanently, he's likeable and offers something a bit different
  20. he's played on the right more because we are so desperate for anyone there, total lack of options, even if we succeed in landing him it'll either be James or Greenwood as the rotation option on the right
  21. I think James always on the right rarely he play on the left. Our left already for Rashford actually except he screw up. Yes, I think that's make the diff between good and great player. We have Young many years and cannot see where is his teammate
  22. Coaching problem that can be ironed out as long as the player has the capacity to take instructions.
  23. Given that James prefers the left and we desperately need Sancho or a top RW for the right I don't think it'll have any impact tbh - James will continue to be a good squad option and supersub, he only played too much this season as he got off to a hot start and then one of Martial/Rashford have been injured for long periods of time
  24. He earned an extension based on the performance. Still minimal risk as it isn't permanent. This club is a shambles but it's decent business to keep him for a while. Seems to be really popular too. Good depth in an area we're badly short.
  25. Done deal. This is the equivalent of inviting a ten-to-two bird to your parents’ for dinner.
  26. 4 goals in 8 games, I'd say it's worth keeping hold of him.
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